We just changed recently to this whole new cad program, No aisle assignments, run pallets straight off the truck in two man teams, In theory it may sound faster, but in application it's not, here's what will happen, theres no accountability now, because every aisle is done by everyone, so you just gave the already lazy workers, a reason to be even lazier, they don't give a ****, they figure, hey the hard workers will just pick up the slack , anyway, my Queastion does anyone else have any experience with this, when we did our own aisle, there's was never an issue getting done, but know, it seems like we never get done anymore, I'm the grocery backup at my store, and when I bring up my concerns, all I am told is it's not the program, well the program don't work
Hopefully that's not a system that they're planning on adopting everywhere. There's a lot wrong with that system. The good workers won't do good work anymore because there's no point. There's nothing to show anymore.
Another policy based on robotic workers without the human element factored in.
Exactly my point, we have some really hard workers, But there attitude is changing to a "why bother" why bust my ass , when the others don't do anything, And honestly I cant really blame them,
I like being assigned an aisle or aisles. It would be nice to rotate every couple of months so everyone can see how much work each aisle is.
At my previous store, we spotted the grocery truck and one aisle was worked by two people because it was time consuming. Then, from there, we split up to the different aisles. We would randomly run aisles each night. We were spotting the kmp pallets too but that was a 3 ring circus. I could break it down quicker onto L carts than 3 people spotting it. 6 manhours to spot it vs 2 hours for me to sort it onto L carts.
At my current store, we run directly off of pallets. We have enough people to assign aisles. Most of the time, the night manager will sort kmp onto aisle friendly pallets. Atleast sort enough so another person can run off the pallets easier until they get to the next aisle layer. I run the high shelf stuff off the pallet and spot the low shelf items. I go back and do those when I am conditioning. It has been a new experience for me. It works very well for the canned veggie/soup aisle. I think it is better to spot the condiment/pasta and baking aisle the same way because there is so much product. The cereal, juice, soda and paper aisles are too bulky to run off of a pallet for me. Petfood works good except I will spot anything that needs to be opened. I have done time studies. I can run/condition aisles fast enough when it is spotted to make up for the time spent spotting. The DDP doesn't allow time for spotting.
There should be assigned aisles so there can be accountability. I easily spend the entire 8 hours in the aisle I run. I run(200-400 cases a night), condition, order and run backstock when I have time.
I work in a 1m+ store. We currently have 9 people on our night crew. We also have slackers.
How many people on your crew? How many cases for a truck on any given night? Who conditions?
Were a 1m+ store too, we have 10 stockers, 4 of those are full time, the rest part time, we have 1 truck 4 nights a week alternating between grocery and peyton, that can run anywhere between 1500 to 2500, and the other 3 nights a week we get a grocery and a peyton order, out are ten stockers, 4 are hard workers, another 3 are decent, and the last 3 are useless, I may have lied a little, we do have aisle assignments, we run backstock and condition those aisles, but as far as new freight we run all that together, which in my experience just takes too long, and that's how a run stock too, I spot everything on the bottom, and run that when I go to condition, saves time, and easier on the back
Were a 1m+ store too, we have 10 stockers, 4 of those are full time, the rest part time, we have 1 truck 4 nights a week alternating between grocery and peyton, that can run anywhere between 1500 to 2500, and the other 3 nights a week we get a grocery and a peyton order, out are ten stockers, 4 are hard workers, another 3 are decent, and the last 3 are useless, I may have lied a little, we do have aisle assignments, we run backstock and condition those aisles, but as far as new freight we run all that together, which in my experience just takes too long, and that's how a run stock too, I spot everything on the bottom, and run that when I go to condition, saves time, and easier on the back
Your truck schedule is just like ours. I heard we are going to drop one grocery order on the double truck night but not sure when that starts.
Two people working the same pallet makes too much time for getting in each others way or talking. The pallets are mostly by aisle with a few strays.
I would push for assigning aisles again but working off of pallets. Maybe rotating every few months. Everyone hates the aisle I run and don't seem to know how to condition it. It's always a mess when I come back from a day off. If the store manager won't budge, try to atleast go to one person per pallet. That is hard because then someone will need to make sure everyone gets a taste of each aisle.
We are having difficulty getting the work done per the DDP as a team. I have timed myself and think I am doing 100%. It is the people doing household soap, paper and petfood that are dragging the time down. It doesn't take 8 hours to run and condition petfood. I timed myself on a peyton night in petfood. 1.25 hours and done. That was stopping for customers too. I timed myself on a grocery night in the household aisles. 2.75 hours. I know it is a high volume store but it doesn't take all night to finish those aisles.
Iv'e pushed so many times for us to go back to our own aisles, I talked to everyone, I get the same answer every time, it's not the program, even if the program doesn't work, we still gotta do it, I have the same issue as you, were people take far longer than it should take to do an aisle, like paper, and soap, and cereal, My other issue is overtime, I have always been told stay till the job is done, which is cool cause I like money, were on a no overtime thing know, so if we don't get done in time, I might push a pallet or two to the back, I'll have everything else done and conditioned, but the next night I get yelled at, but if I keep people to get done, I get yelled at, so i'm losing either way,
If by CAD you mean commodity assigned delivery I'm not sure what the issue is, it increases efficiency both at stores and the warehouse by arranging both of them so that we receive aisle friendly pallets (AFPs), reducing the time it takes to break down. My store isn't large enough to bring a board down the aisle so we drop the board at the end of the aisle and spot the freight from there. Then we split up and work aisles by ourselves.
Key Retailing only calls for working off the pallet if your aisles are large enough. Breaking down AFPs (1-2 aisles max) on the floor and sorting unfriendly boards in the backroom onto u-boats is acceptable, as far as I am aware.
Each store has there own experience with it, And don't know about the warehouse, but in my store it does not, it only the lazy people a advantage, lets them be lazier, while the hard works pick up there slack
I work Nightcrew and we tried that CAD program thing where we all work one aisle. It didn't work. Sooooo... What we did, we went back to assigning aisles. Hey, no store manager there, just the Nightcrew manager so whose to know? It turned out, assigning aisles is ALOT easier; it weeds out the lazies from the hard workers. So far, store managemt doesn't know a thing that we are choosing to do it our way instead of CAD's way
problem with that is our grocery manager is a straight company boy, by the book all the way, I'm his backup, but he listens nothing I say, then when **** don't go his way, its everyone elses fault, same old same old management behavior, 2 nights a week the crew is mine, and I do run it my way, and it works, we get it done, with no overtime, but hey why listen to results, right
Because it's so much "easier" to run things ass backwards and crazy. If management looked at results then maybe... JUST MAYBE, they MIGHT see that sometimes it's MUCH better to leave things as they were. But it is management after all...
we got a new store manager about a month ago, Its been a sinking ship ever since, he has us going to help bail out dairy and frozen, all the time, and still with no overtime, I love krogers, I really do, I've invested a lot of time into it, but this new guy, really makes me wanna jump ship, no one in the store likes him, and its not because he's a hard ass,(I could care less about that, cause I do my job), It's because he keeps trying to change everything, if it aint broke, don't fix it right, we've had department heads forced outta there position, guy who have been there 10+ years, Its just crazy
