harassment

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

harassment

Date: May 27, 2015

You went too far.

He called out. Accept it. You don't need to harass your employee.

Get over yourself.

Date: May 27, 2015

Lol ok I don't think I'm all about my self by busting his balls a bit.Im not a boss just an employee like him but thanks for the feed back

Date: May 27, 2015

So ok I went too far don't you think coming through me saying I went too far is the more manly thing to do then running to a manager crying ?

Date: May 27, 2015

slagneb2 wrote:
Ok I know I went over board but was this harassment? Guy called in yesterday saying wife bit by spider might not make it.You should know this guy is full of crap 24/7 Lazy as they come so I sent 14 texts to him while I was working trying To find out if he was coming.Nothing crazy just we need you your wife will be fine etc etc.I know I know I went too far but this dude is one of those lying lazy types that is always full of it so he showed the store manager and human resources is suppose to get back with us any ideas what can happen?I hate Kroger more and more every day because of union employees like this guy I'm not nor will I ever join the union

Might as well fess up, Just admit to management that you went to far and they might not come down on you. Since your speaking with them you might as well bring up any concerns with your co worker slacking.

BagBoy · Guru

Did he tell you to stop?
After he told you to leave him alone did you continue to pester him?

Date: May 27, 2015

Anonymous wrote:
Lol ok I don't think I'm all about my self by busting his balls a bit.Im not a boss just an employee like him but thanks for the feed back

Well then you definitely went to far. The only ones who should be asking an employee about whether or not he's coming in or not are his immediate supervisor and management. It wasn't your place to contact him. You can relay your concerns to your supervisor or management, but it's up to them as to what to do about it.

mega-kitteh · Guru

BagBoy wrote:
Did he tell you to stop?
After he told you to leave him alone did you continue to pester him?

If someone had continued to do that to me and TRY to get me to come in snd TRY to tell me my wife will be fine after I asked him not to, I'd have a friend call in and say "on behalf of xxx, **** OFF!!! QUIT CALLING THIS NUMBER

Date: May 27, 2015

Yes it's harassment. It's also none of your business.

Date: May 27, 2015

Were you on the clock while you were sending these text. You should have been working.

Date: May 27, 2015

It's going to get really bad for you if in fact his wife did get a spider bite. Spider bites are nothing to mess around with and I wouldn't leave my spouse with one and go to work. His problem is he calls out so much that if something does happens nobody believes him or cares. But imagine you at the doctor with your spouse and some dang employee texts or calls you 14 times!

You really shouldn't have called him at all. Period. Apologize, accept the write up and move on.

mega-kitteh · Guru

Exactly. If the guy is lying, let management deal with it. If he's telling the truth, fine. Either way, it's harassment. If I were that guy, I'd bellow at you to piss off and quit calling my f*cking phone. Then you'd have a reason to turn me in to management.

nocturnia · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
So ok I went too far don't you think coming through me saying I went too far is the more manly thing to do then running to a manager crying ?

Just the way you wrote this tells me you're a bullying punk who needs a dick kick, and your co worker felt like dealing with you the fastest, easiest and most effective way.

Betcha don't do it again.

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

Ok first off he never told me to stop and a few months back he used his wife excuse I made the comment he might need a doctors note and poof his attitude changed he showed up.This time he was suppose to contact us and he was ignoring everyone until I said the doctors note thing again and poof he showed up again.If this was a person I believed I would never have done it but like I said this guy is a lazy lying POS and I get I went overboard and was out of line but I didn't threaten him cuss at him just asking WTF was going on and let us know but the fact he ignored us the fact he showed up again after I mentioned doctors note and how he showed my texts proves he was lying and trying to get me in trouble.It's ALWAYS the damn union guys that pull this **** not once have I had issues with non union only lazy union members they ruin kroger

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

nocturnia wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So ok I went too far don't you think coming through me saying I went too far is the more manly thing to do then running to a manager crying ?
Just the way you wrote this tells me you're a bullying punk who needs a dick kick, and your co worker felt like dealing with you the fastest, easiest and most effective way.
Betcha don't do it again.

So running to management like a female is the most effective way? Why not man up and confront me face to face?I'll tell you why this guy is a almost 50 something, lazy, spineless coward that is making min wage for a reason.We all make mistakes I own up to what I did but id be damned if I go whining to management over something like this.Walk up to me and call me out but No he's a chicken **** that does this kind of stuff all the time never confronts you but will talk behind your back all day so dont go calling me a punk when you know only what I've said on here.In fact you sound like a union guy

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

it wasn't my place yes but management comes to me asking me to get ahold of him and find out what's going on.I went overboard with the number of texts but I didn't start out that way I waas getting pissed he was ignoring everyone and my last guy was leaving at 6 so I had to find out what was going on just should've done it differently I guess but I still dont see how its harassment if I didn't cuss threaten anything just asked him what's going on and we need him.This guy lies lies lies and I know it where other people believe his BS is all it is

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

He didn't tell me to stop because he knew he was lying he didn't respond because he was lying he only responded when I said you might need a doctors note because the phone rings 2mins after I said that and magically he shows up c'mon dude give me a break

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

BagBoy wrote:
Did he tell you to stop?
After he told you to leave him alone did you continue to pester him?

He never did and no only after I brought up doctors note did he call the store and say he was coming so I went overboard but damn it I know this guy and I know what he was pulling this is BS

slagneb2 · Veteran Member

So let me ask you all this a few months back I had an employee tell me 2 guys I work with that were born in Mexico by the way were out to get me fired.2 days later I'm in the office with them there union rep store manager and there lying about me so I tell everyone what I had heard 2 days prior nothing happens.Month later same guys same situation nothing happens I call the 1-800 number to file harassment on them and guest what nothing happens.So here I send 14 texts ok crazy on my part but do I not have a reason to be furious nothing came of my harassment request or the fact I had a witness with these guys trying to get me fired.The store manager knew everything and here is the manager backing this guy and my crap gets no mention love to hear from all of you even the union people lol

BagBoy · Guru

slagneb2 wrote:
So let me ask you all this a few months back I had an employee tell me 2 guys I work with that were born in Mexico by the way were out to get me fired.2 days later I'm in the office with them there union rep store manager and there lying about me so I tell everyone what I had heard 2 days prior nothing happens.Month later same guys same situation nothing happens I call the 1-800 number to file harassment on them and guest what nothing happens.So here I send 14 texts ok crazy on my part but do I not have a reason to be furious nothing came of my harassment request or the fact I had a witness with these guys trying to get me fired.The store manager knew everything and here is the manager backing this guy and my crap gets no mention love to hear from all of you even the union people lol

That and this are two separate issues, though.

On your issue nothing happened because the manager more than likely believed you (you still have a job) so nothing to worry about. This is about your overzealous efforts to force someone to come in and work a shift.

Neither are admirable, but both are different.

Date: May 28, 2015

I get that but I was only texting him so much because it was Tuesday and I was working for to set up for ad change day on Wednesda.The fact he was not saying if he was or wasn't coming in handcuffed me getting someone else to cover for him.And knowing this POS the way I do he was gonna milk it all day until it was too late for someone elsr to come in I know this guys games.And the proof is as soon as I mentioned doctor the phone rings and he's on his way.Yes I went about it the wrong way but he was screwing us by avoiding the phone calls.I would never ever do that to someone except for a guy like this .My question is if they try to write me up which I don't see how except for using my cell at work but a manager told me to get ahold of him should I bring up the recent stuff that happened to me or just drop it ?

Date: May 28, 2015

Let's say im right and he was sitting at home doing nothing and his wife did get bit by a spider but it was weeks ago is what I think I what was going on am I still wrong?I hate to say it but Damn it I think even then I was in the wrong still pisses me off guys like that get away with **** like this

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
Let's say im right and he was sitting at home doing nothing and his wife did get bit by a spider but it was weeks ago is what I think I what was going on am I still wrong?I hate to say it but Damn it I think even then I was in the wrong still pisses me off guys like that get away with **** like this

You can get away with it, too. You shouldn't concern yourself with him as much as you are.

Date: May 28, 2015

I'm just REALLY upset and gonna make sure this never happens two name again thanks

Date: May 28, 2015

BagBoy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Let's say im right and he was sitting at home doing nothing and his wife did get bit by a spider but it was weeks ago is what I think I what was going on am I still wrong?I hate to say it but Damn it I think even then I was in the wrong still pisses me off guys like that get away with **** like this
You can get away with it, too. You shouldn't concern yourself with him as much as you are.

What goes around me comes around if im right he'll get his one way or another

Date: May 28, 2015

Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Let's say im right and he was sitting at home doing nothing and his wife did get bit by a spider but it was weeks ago is what I think I what was going on am I still wrong?I hate to say it but Damn it I think even then I was in the wrong still pisses me off guys like that get away with **** like this
You can get away with it, too. You shouldn't concern yourself with him as much as you are.
What goes around me comes around if im right he'll get his one way or another

You sound like one of those people who always have some type of drama going on everywhere they go. Just do your job and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

Date: May 28, 2015

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Let's say im right and he was sitting at home doing nothing and his wife did get bit by a spider but it was weeks ago is what I think I what was going on am I still wrong?I hate to say it but Damn it I think even then I was in the wrong still pisses me off guys like that get away with **** like this
You can get away with it, too. You shouldn't concern yourself with him as much as you are.
What goes around me comes around if im right he'll get his one way or another
You sound like one of those people who always have some type of drama going on everywhere they go. Just do your job and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.

You would think that wouldn't you? I've only had issues with these lazy union peeps that get upset cuz I'm trying too get them to God forbid work for 8 hours instead of making other people do there jobs.I don't know about other unions but as far as the people I deal with they are by far the laziest scum on the face of this earth

Date: May 28, 2015

Just tell the manager you were doing what you were told. Also explain it was hard to work and text at the same time, but you did your best! Remind the manager of the no phone while you work policy and suggest maybe he handle those types of calls in the future.

Not that I agree at all with what you did, you were wrong. It's just fun to stir the pot sometimes with management.

FuelGal · Veteran Member

slagneb2 wrote:
nocturnia wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
So ok I went too far don't you think coming through me saying I went too far is the more manly thing to do then running to a manager crying ?
Just the way you wrote this tells me you're a bullying punk who needs a dick kick, and your co worker felt like dealing with you the fastest, easiest and most effective way.
Betcha don't do it again.

So running to management like a female is the most effective way? Why not man up and confront me face to face?I'll tell you why this guy is a almost 50 something, lazy, spineless coward that is making min wage for a reason.We all make mistakes I own up to what I did but id be damned if I go whining to management over something like this.Walk up to me and call me out but No he's a chicken **** that does this kind of stuff all the time never confronts you but will talk behind your back all day so dont go calling me a punk when you know only what I've said on here.In fact you sound like a union guy

I love how you had to say "Running to management like a female". I'll have you know I've seen grown a$$ MEN report people to management. Why? Because they don't want to put up with douche bags at work. You deliberately harassed this guy whether you like to admit it or not. The only one who should have contacted him was his manager, a member of management, or the store manager. You calling him multiple times is indeed harassment because you repeatedly called him when the situation wasn't your concern in the first place.

Never the less, I do indeed hate lazy people. But you blowing up their phone doesn't help any situation. Also: There are multiple lazy people. Some of them aren't even in the union. I work with a girl who isn't in the union but she's as lazy as they come. When she calls in or she does things wrong I won't harass her. I also have had someone harass me at work like you have. It's annoying and wrong. And hell yes, I reported them. They shouldn't be sticking their nose in my business.

I'm a female and I approve this message.

-- Edited by FuelGal on Friday 29th of May 2015 02:43:53 AM

Date: May 29, 2015

Hold up though I was working that shift strictly to get set up for weda ad change and with him playing the maybe I will maybe I won't come in game it was screwing me more so then him just calling In.I agree managemeant should have called him not me but I was told by a manager to find out what's going on with him but I still went overboard sure but there was a method tI my madness

nocturnia · Guru

Once again:

A marvelous display of self-justification for clearly bull s-h-i-t, childish and just down right wrong behavior. Love these posts, they're like outa Dear Abby: ¨Abby, I was a total douche, and I did things exactly as I wanted to do them, just like I always do, and I know it was wrong and that my actions affected others, but I don't care because, well, screw everybody, it's all about ME and how I feel.................................sooooooo.............................was I wrong?¨

HEY FUKHEAD TAKE THIS $HIT UP WITH YOUR PRIEST

Date: May 29, 2015

people need to read their contracts as long as you call within the hours needed to give a notice for your scheduled shift you don't have to tell these clowns the reason why all you have to say is that you wont be there for your shift that's it nothing more.

4hourrush · Guru

Yeah, I would have been willing to give this ****wit the benefit of the doubt until the "running to management like a female" comment.

If you treat all your coworkers like that, no wonder the guy got tired of your bull**** and went to management.

FuelGal · Veteran Member

4hourrush wrote:
Yeah, I would have been willing to give this ****wit the benefit of the doubt until the "running to management like a female" comment.

If you treat all your coworkers like that, no wonder the guy got tired of your bull**** and went to management.

Yeah that was the one thing that got me. Just goes to show you quite a bit of people still use the typical stereotypes about women AND men alike.

Top 2 stereotypes I've heard so far:

*"Women belong in the kitchen.*

*"Men are supposed to work and take care of the wife.*

Date: May 30, 2015

FuelGal wrote:
4hourrush wrote:
Yeah, I would have been willing to give this ****wit the benefit of the doubt until the "running to management like a female" comment.

If you treat all your coworkers like that, no wonder the guy got tired of your bull**** and went to management.
Yeah that was the one thing that got me. Just goes to show you quite a bit of people still use the typical stereotypes about women AND men alike.

Top 2 stereotypes I've heard so far:

*"Women belong in the kitchen.*
*"Men are supposed to work and take care of the wife.*

well if you been around long enough to compare the two one could defend that things were a hell of a lot better in stores when women were only in the bakery and deli.. just sayin

4hourrush · Guru

With that attitude, I expect you to be working minimum wage jobs your whole life, then bitching about how the government doesn't provide you enough handouts.

grumpy1 · Guru

slagneb2 wrote:
Ok I know I went over board but was this harassment? Guy called in yesterday saying wife bit by spider might not make it.You should know this guy is full of crap 24/7 Lazy as they come so I sent 14 texts to him while I was working trying To find out if he was coming.Nothing crazy just we need you your wife will be fine etc etc.I know I know I went too far but this dude is one of those lying lazy types that is always full of it so he showed the store manager and human resources is suppose to get back with us any ideas what can happen?I hate Kroger more and more every day because of union employees like this guy I'm not nor will I ever join the union

1 First thing is this . Yes you was way over the top in harassment.

2 Second is that blaming the union is not your problem, look in the mirror first.

3 if you was not on the clock when you sent any of these, then you could be considered working off the Clock.

That could get you terminated but probably not.

4 There are ways to get rid of any employee regardless of union or not. If you or your management team does it correctly and by the rules then there is no problem(s) getting rid of anyone.

5 blaming the union is usually the result of employee or management not following rules and proper paper work.

6 Those same rules that are protecting this employee ( rather just or not in having him around ) are the same rules and contract that may save you from harassment.

If you are an hourly worker ( department head) then let management deal with this worker and others like them. Sending Texts messages can get you in trouble and if not on the clock, could get you fired. Biggest problem I have always had was getting management to do the write-ups and follow ups that they are in need of doing.

Most cases of union blaming comes from frustration of not wanting to deal wit protocol and management wanting to pass the buck down to department heads that are not permitted to do the discipline because of the rules in place.

Date: Jun 2, 2015

slagneb2 wrote:
Ok first off he never told me to stop and a few months back he used his wife excuse I made the comment he might need a doctors note and poof his attitude changed he showed up.This time he was suppose to contact us and he was ignoring everyone until I said the doctors note thing again and poof he showed up again.If this was a person I believed I would never have done it but like I said this guy is a lazy lying POS and I get I went overboard and was out of line but I didn't threaten him cuss at him just asking WTF was going on and let us know but the fact he ignored us the fact he showed up again after I mentioned doctors note and how he showed my texts proves he was lying and trying to get me in trouble.It's ALWAYS the damn union guys that pull this **** not once have I had issues with non union only lazy union members they ruin kroger

It seems you are helping him by reminding him of the doctors note. Just let him keep calling in and let him deal with it. Why remind him? All this does is allow him to show up late for work. Let him miss a few more times and management will deal with him.