Hi I'm new to the forum along with the Kroger family. I picked upa overnight stocking job about two weeks ago and so far been noticing a tread that i wonder is normal and also a problem for me.
My manager constantly begs me and other workers to either come in on nights we are off or stay on the clock for a few more hours, now i understand sometimes you desperately need people sometimes but he does this almost every day. He does not ask or offer the additional hours, he pleads and begs that we do this because everyday there seems to be a new crisis. I go in and work the hours on my schedule and majority of the time don't want to work theses extra hours but i also don't want to get fired. So the question is, "Is there a chance i can get fired for rejecting to do any extra hours?"
I am a night manager and run into the same issue. Except, I don't beg for my workers to stay. I tell them they have to stay atleast 2 hours over their scheduled shift or until the truck is done. Per our union contract, I can keep them 2 hours over each shift(even OT if necessary except I risk getting chewed out by store manager). Not sure how your contract is written.
I don't bother to call people in. I know they will not come in and don't care if the truck gets done or not. You will not get in trouble for not coming in on your day off.
Every department is given a set of hours determined by OLMS(?) based on workload and previous years sales. The schedule writer is only allowed to use so many hours to write the schedule. Therefore, to make it look good on paper, they have to give 4 and 6 hour shifts to the part timers. On some nights, we need more hours than the schedule allows. We are allowed to keep people past their shift. If they refuse, they have abandoned their job(quit).
After Olms, there is WWP(weekly planner) and DDP(daily planner) for how the hours are used. The day Grocery manager takes a lot of hours from the WWP and doesn't do anything to help the night crew. Ask your department manager to show you and explain the DDP to you. Look at the schedule and see how many people hours are scheduled.
For example, tonights the truck is 1320 cases. Minus 2 water pallets it will be under 1200. The Daily Planner gives me 21 hours to run the stock, 2.5 hours to order, 10 hours to condition and I will need 1.5 hours for fast alerts and receiving. I need 35 hours tonight to get everything done without OT. I have people scheduled for 31.25 hours excluding one new person(5.25 hours). If the new person can keep up with the pace, we have enough people to get everything done and everyone can leave at their scheduled time. Well, that is in a perfect world. Two of the crew will see all the people on the schedule and one of them will probably decide they can call in. Now I am left with 24 hours worth of people and need to get 35 hours worth of work done.
I get annoyed when people call in and don't want to stay over. I don't get mad tho. But, as soon as their hours get cut below 18 a week, they whine and cry that they aren't getting enough hours. They should work the hours offered because if Kroger can hire enough people, all pts will be scheduled 12 hours a week.
BS I hit the door running when i am scheduled to leave whether i am finished or not and no one can make me STAY over. Thats what the schedule is for. You can ask but i will tell you politely to F*K off i have a real life unlike you.
BS I hit the door running when i am scheduled to leave whether i am finished or not and no one can make me STAY over. Thats what the schedule is for. You can ask but i will tell you politely to F*K off i have a real life unlike you.
That is why I am making the big bucks and am in charge of the night crew. If your store manager and department manager wanted to be pricks, they could terminate you. But, most would rather use you until you quit. Or, you are not worth keeping over your scheduled shift.
Your contract may be different but mine says I can keep everyone 2 hours over their shift up to their availability. And, I do.
Most of my workers have your same F off attitude and will not last long at Kroger. They will find out how well their F off policy works in 3 months when they close this store and open a new store nearby.
I am not guaranteed a spot in the new store and will not vouch for any of my workers. Everyone will be scrambled around to the 3 closest different stores. It might be better and might be worse.
I am a night manager and run into the same issue. Except, I don't beg for my workers to stay. I tell them they have to stay atleast 2 hours over their scheduled shift or until the truck is done. Per our union contract, I can keep them 2 hours over each shift(even OT if necessary except I risk getting chewed out by store manager). Not sure how your contract is written.
I don't bother to call people in. I know they will not come in and don't care if the truck gets done or not. You will not get in trouble for not coming in on your day off.
Every department is given a set of hours determined by OLMS(?) based on workload and previous years sales. The schedule writer is only allowed to use so many hours to write the schedule. Therefore, to make it look good on paper, they have to give 4 and 6 hour shifts to the part timers. On some nights, we need more hours than the schedule allows. We are allowed to keep people past their shift. If they refuse, they have abandoned their job(quit).
After Olms, there is WWP(weekly planner) and DDP(daily planner) for how the hours are used. The day Grocery manager takes a lot of hours from the WWP and doesn't do anything to help the night crew. Ask your department manager to show you and explain the DDP to you. Look at the schedule and see how many people hours are scheduled.
For example, tonights the truck is 1320 cases. Minus 2 water pallets it will be under 1200. The Daily Planner gives me 21 hours to run the stock, 2.5 hours to order, 10 hours to condition and I will need 1.5 hours for fast alerts and receiving. I need 35 hours tonight to get everything done without OT. I have people scheduled for 31.25 hours excluding one new person(5.25 hours). If the new person can keep up with the pace, we have enough people to get everything done and everyone can leave at their scheduled time. Well, that is in a perfect world. Two of the crew will see all the people on the schedule and one of them will probably decide they can call in. Now I am left with 24 hours worth of people and need to get 35 hours worth of work done.
I get annoyed when people call in and don't want to stay over. I don't get mad tho. But, as soon as their hours get cut below 18 a week, they whine and cry that they aren't getting enough hours. They should work the hours offered because if Kroger can hire enough people, all pts will be scheduled 12 hours a week.
W O W I E you used a lot of big, superfluous words you probably learned playing Scrabble to, basically, tell us all you are a K A W K SUCKER.
Kroger will N E V E R hire enough people (and keep enough people) to be happy with 12 hours a week. This guy is basically talking out of his ass.
Dam, can't say it was a fat finger mistake. Letters too far apart. I have never seen Elms written, just hear elms this and elms that.
I realize Kroger will never hire enough people to be happy with 12 hours a week. When I am a store manager before I am the CEO, I will need to be able to pretend with a straight face. Just practicing. The full timers have been saying my hours were going to be cut below 20 hours a week for years. I kept saying ok. Everyone else kept quitting. Tada! I am now the night manager at top pay.
I am a night manager and run into the same issue. Except, I don't beg for my workers to stay. I tell them they have to stay atleast 2 hours over their scheduled shift or until the truck is done. Per our union contract, I can keep them 2 hours over each shift(even OT if necessary except I risk getting chewed out by store manager). Not sure how your contract is written.
I don't bother to call people in. I know they will not come in and don't care if the truck gets done or not. You will not get in trouble for not coming in on your day off.
Every department is given a set of hours determined by OLMS(?) based on workload and previous years sales. The schedule writer is only allowed to use so many hours to write the schedule. Therefore, to make it look good on paper, they have to give 4 and 6 hour shifts to the part timers. On some nights, we need more hours than the schedule allows. We are allowed to keep people past their shift. If they refuse, they have abandoned their job(quit).
After Olms, there is WWP(weekly planner) and DDP(daily planner) for how the hours are used. The day Grocery manager takes a lot of hours from the WWP and doesn't do anything to help the night crew. Ask your department manager to show you and explain the DDP to you. Look at the schedule and see how many people hours are scheduled.
For example, tonights the truck is 1320 cases. Minus 2 water pallets it will be under 1200. The Daily Planner gives me 21 hours to run the stock, 2.5 hours to order, 10 hours to condition and I will need 1.5 hours for fast alerts and receiving. I need 35 hours tonight to get everything done without OT. I have people scheduled for 31.25 hours excluding one new person(5.25 hours). If the new person can keep up with the pace, we have enough people to get everything done and everyone can leave at their scheduled time. Well, that is in a perfect world. Two of the crew will see all the people on the schedule and one of them will probably decide they can call in. Now I am left with 24 hours worth of people and need to get 35 hours worth of work done.
I get annoyed when people call in and don't want to stay over. I don't get mad tho. But, as soon as their hours get cut below 18 a week, they whine and cry that they aren't getting enough hours. They should work the hours offered because if Kroger can hire enough people, all pts will be scheduled 12 hours a week.
W O W I E you used a lot of big, superfluous words you probably learned playing Scrabble to, basically, tell us all you are a K A W K SUCKER.
I hate scrabble. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
I suspect you are one of my workers. So, I was extra obnoxious to my crew last night.
