Well, i've never been told i can't say Merry Christmas. For that matter, no one's ever been told that. We get decorations that say Merry Christmas for cakes and cupcakes in December. Sorry to break it to you but there's no war on Christmas lol.
Anonymous wrote:...why are you trying to make a statement at work? Keep your beliefs on the internet
This. The deal is, when you are on the clock and wearing Kroger's colors, you speak with Kroger's voice, not your own. This is true of every job you will ever have.
I don't know about your store, but in mine, there is actually a separate rack for Christian books. At the very least, this indicates that Kroger's understands it has a large Christian customer base it does not want to offend.
As to Christmas, we played actual Christmas carols, with religious content. Not very many, compared to the secular winter season crap, but yeah, they were there, and not just the instrumental versions. We had marketing signs saying "merry Christmas". That being the case, I'd be very surprised if we couldn't say, "Merry Christmas!"
Even so, though I am myself a Christian, I would not wear Christian jewelry, such as a cross, where it could be seen. This is not because I am ashamed of being a Christian, but because Kroger's is not the place.
(And yes, we have one or two female employees who wear a hijab, a Muslim scarf, and yes, it bugs the heck out of me. One of them works the courtesy booth, so she is very much up front and center with customers.)
-- Edited by The Conditioner on Thursday 19th of January 2017 01:15:37 AM
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I've seen one co-worker wear his Hajiib (I think that's what it's called. The head wrap.. Correct me if I'm wrong) to work. He said it was part of his religion. A customer got offended and wanted him to remove it. He refused. Management wanted him to remove it. He refused. $hit really hit the fan then. In the end they got paperwork to. "Transfer" him. I'm not sure if it was an actual transfer
Or a "special transfer." But they can't fire him for his refusal can they? He's a real nice guy who has done no harm
To anyone.
(And yes, we have one or two female employees who wear a hijab, a Muslim scarf, and yes, it bugs the heck out of me. One of them works the courtesy booth, so she is very much up front and center with customers.)
-- Edited by The Conditioner on Thursday 19th of January 2017 01:15:37 AM
(And yes, we have one or two female employees who wear a hijab, a Muslim scarf, and yes, it bugs the heck out of me. One of them works the courtesy booth, so she is very much up front and center with customers.)
-- Edited by The Conditioner on Thursday 19th of January 2017 01:15:37 AM
Why does it bother you?
Exactly. The Conditioner can just deal with it. as long as they are doing their work. Deal with it.
Now hold on, PC dumbasses! If the 'gals' can wear their hijab, then the OP can wear their 'A for atheist' garb! & in my humble but correct opinion, if you're going to live here in the good ol USA, lose the hijab! & learn the language! Ever been out of this country? Were u catered to? I think not!
(And yes, we have one or two female employees who wear a hijab, a Muslim scarf, and yes, it bugs the heck out of me. One of them works the courtesy booth, so she is very much up front and center with customers.)
Why does it bother you?
For the same reason that any employee out of uniform bothers me. Plus my expectation that if Kroger tried to make a hijab-wearing employee take her hijab off, there'd be a near riot, and the rule would be thrown out. while any other article of clothing violating the code so visibly would not.
You take Kroger's dime, you wear the blue shirt, black pants, etc. and nothing else except as job duties and climate requires.
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(And yes, we have one or two female employees who wear a hijab, a Muslim scarf, and yes, it bugs the heck out of me. One of them works the courtesy booth, so she is very much up front and center with customers.)
Why does it bother you?
For the same reason that any employee out of uniform bothers me. Plus my expectation that if Kroger tried to make a hijab-wearing employee take her hijab off, there'd be a near riot, and the rule would be thrown out. while any other article of clothing violating the code so visibly would not.
You take Kroger's dime, you wear the blue shirt, black pants, etc. and nothing else except as job duties and climate requires.
That's not out of uniform, as long as she's still wearing the Kroger shirt and pants (or hell a black dress/skirt for that matter if you were part of a religion where women wear clothing like that) then you still match the Kroger uniform. Your logic is flawed. My old store once had a girl who was part of a religious group (might have been German baptist but i'm not sure) and she wore a long black skirt with her uniform and she worked in floral no problem.
The Conditioner wrote:[It bothers me] for the same reason that any employee out of uniform bothers me. Plus my expectation that if Kroger tried to make a hijab-wearing employee take her hijab off, there'd be a near riot, and the rule would be thrown out. while any other article of clothing violating the code so visibly would not.
You take Kroger's dime, you wear the blue shirt, black pants, etc. and nothing else except as job duties and climate requires.
That's not out of uniform, as long as she's still wearing the Kroger shirt and pants (or hell a black dress/skirt for that matter if you were part of a religion where women wear clothing like that) then you still match the Kroger uniform. Your logic is flawed. My old store once had a girl who was part of a religious group (might have been German baptist but i'm not sure) and she wore a long black skirt with her uniform and she worked in floral no problem.
Pennsylvania Dutch, perhaps? Did she wear the bonnet?
Unless the dress code specifically allows skirts, that shouldn't have been allowed either.
Here's the deal: A uniform declares your participation in a group with a common cause. It should not be mixed with another uniform, especially in a way that muddles your primary allegiance.
And the addition most very especially must not declare allegiance to a group or cause antithetical to the one that's paying your salary--however miserable those coins may be. If Kroger (or its local or district management) perceives itself to be a Christian organization, Atheist jewelry is right out. (Any Kroger should reject an anarchist symbol--anarchy and business cannot coexist.)
I suppose managers may make exceptions on a case by case basis, but any deviation, no matter how small, has no defense. It's worn on tolerance at best. I absolutely agree that if either the hijab, the skirt, or the atheist symbol are allowed, the others must be as well. They're not, which implies managerial discretion is too broad. This is why dress codes should be explicit, and enforced as written.
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If I wore a religious necklace and they TRIED to make me remove it, 2 things would happen. 1) I'd laugh and continue to wear it. 2) see number 1.
However if they POLITELY asked me to conceal it I would IF able to do so. but I don't think a hijab you could.
Polite is the key word, but it does go both ways. Some groups are more polite than others. (See, for instance, the Tea Party and the Occupy rallies, or the protests at Obama's swearing-ins and at Trump's.)
And remember: there is no law requiring you to work at Kroger. If they're policies annoy you, work somewhere else.
And as you say, it's one thing to wear something like a small, easily concealable cross or A necklace. It's another thing entirely to wear a hijab--symbol of a group historically notorious for its tendency to press itself on the unwilling by force while whining that it is being oppressed.
-- Edited by The Conditioner on Sunday 22nd of January 2017 08:44:04 AM
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