will be suspended/terminated. Heard that another store people would come in and write schedules/edit orders off the clock. Someone found out and HR was interviewing the whole store. If store management sees it happening and does nothing they could get fired.
All I can say about that is: It's either clock out and finish your work or stay clocked in and get OT. I am always having to work off the clock because first shift can't do their job right, They leave the garbage and all the dishes for second shift. Then second shift has to clean up that mess before they can do their own work.
All I can say about that is: It's either clock out and finish your work or stay clocked in and get OT. I am always having to work off the clock because first shift can't do their job right, They leave the garbage and all the dishes for second shift. Then second shift has to clean up that mess before they can do their own work.
Never work off the clock.
You can and will be fired. I know of a csm with 15 years that was fired for coming in 30 minutes early to set up the uscan. She was able to get her job back thru a grievance.
Let the manager know you need to clean-up behind day crew before you can start your job. Bring the store manager into the department to show them the mess you have to clean up before you start your shift. Get permission for OT beforehand. Do not get caught milking ot and abusing it. Everyday, I have to clean up behind my day crew and other departments. I have done it so much over the years, it doesn't phase me anymore. Complaints go in one ear and out the other. They will do things right for a few days after a manager says something to them and then go back to the same lazy routine. I come in at 10pm for night grocery. Crap piled around the full balers. Meat department wants their pallets parked in a certain spot in their cooler. When I unload their truck, that space is never clear. They expect me to move their crap to put their new stock where they want it. Instead, it gets put wherever I see empty floor space so I don't have to move anything. Water pallets and gallons empty(my day crews pass the baton task). Power machines not charged. Salvage scattered in backroom. Blue totes not wrapped and more sitting on floor next to over flowing pallet. Or, empty totes sitting on a Uboat in a hallway. And, finally, the trash compactor is always jammed. Closing front end start stacking garbage in front of compactor if I don't clear it first thing. Always empty shopping carts from one end of the back room to the other. Sometimes I clean it up and set things in order, other times I work around the mess so I can get my job done.
As a night manager, I get paid very well to be a janitor even without OT.
Ooh, i heard about this one a couple days ago too at our huddle. If you're in the same area as me, I heard it was someone in district H but idk what store.
I'm guilty of doing small things off the clock once in a while like adding to an order or taking out trash. They tell us not to work off the clock, but also don't want us "nickel and diming" to get little bits of overtime...
I guess, I should have been fired a long time ago. Cause like Deli Clerk, when I'm on closing with everything that you have to clean up and finish off from first shift. Before you can even get to the actual evening stuff. Actually I and a few other bakery peeps on closing have to stay over when we're on closing quite a bit. And with them locking the damn trash compactor all the time, running trash is not easy. Hell had that issue with that earlier tonight, had grabbed our trash cans to empty those first(and some of the extra cardboard that was stacked next to the blue cart) before bringing down our blue cart with additional cardboard and trash. And as I'm emptying the cardboard I of course discover the compactor locked Someone from another dept. was irked by it as well and went to find someone from management to get it open.
Well management opened it, while I ran back to our dept. to get the blue cart, and low and behold, somebody from another dept. up and emptied their trash and CLOSED the damn door! So I had track management down again and ask them to open it. To which turned into a wild goose chase of tracking it down, as it wasn't in the office(he wasn't specific which one, til I asked him to clarify), so went to customer service(management's definition of the office), they didn't have it. So went to Deli to ask them what happened to the one the last person from over there that ran their trash out. And of course, nobody had his number, so we had to check the contact numbers for his number, which wasn't in there. Had to get back to management tell him what was what. He tried to text someone, and then just said he would get a key later.
So I had to leave a note about the trash and bring it back up to the section between Deli and Produce and let the morning crew know what was up and why the trash wasn't run(if management hadn't gotten back with Deli's closer about getting a key for the trash. And I had asked if they could run ours for us if they could get a spare moment) and cause the other chick I was on with, was on closing. But management had said if she got done with everything she could go home early.
And of course you can't really ask to stay over cause they are witching about they hardly have hours to give us for regular scheduling as is. Let alone giving us over time. So yea, I have clocked out and gotten back to my dept. So I don't have to stay there til 11. At the least I'll stay til 10:30 and at the most 10:45. And that is with one other person on closing. Next week with me closing solely by myself. So I truly hope that I do NOT go up to 11 and beyond. But I think it should be a little easier as things have to be kept at 2 high on the sales floor. But still, combo of all that stuff from earlier in the day, typical closing tasks, and the customers that always need something out of the case or a cake written on, or an order taken. Yea, it's a miracle anybody can get out on time.
I asked others is Kroger a place that quietly encourages people to work off the clock? They look the other way, they don't ask questions. They just want things to get done. Doesn't matter if you don't have the help. I think some depts might be better as salary like front end and grocery. heres a pile of paperwork but don't study it at home off the clock wink wink. must take those conference calls even at home but just get someone to clock you in later wink wink. Don't try to ignore calls or they'll rip you. Can't win.
All I can say about that is: It's either clock out and finish your work or stay clocked in and get OT. I am always having to work off the clock because first shift can't do their job right, They leave the garbage and all the dishes for second shift. Then second shift has to clean up that mess before they can do their own work.
I would NEVER work off the clock for ANY reason. too bad you can't take all the garbage and put it in the back area of deli and say "first shift will handle."
Talk to your management or bring it up in the next huddle. CALL THE LAZY SOBS OUT!*
*be prepared for retaliation from first shift if the are vengeful
I know for me, I've only done very small things like accidentally forgetting the time if I am on shop backs, and I've always been honest with a manager or our night lead telling them why I am out late and they don't worry about it or give me grief. Most times my CSRs will also be aware of why I am out late, as I do things for closing very specifically. It's either that or I let a manager know why when I come in next shift, but most times I will inform a manager or night lead before I leave when staying over.
Now off the clock, I've only done one or two small things like grabbing carts from the FE exit and hauling them to lobby, but other than that, we are told once off the clock, we are free, go home and don't worry.
-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 17th of April 2017 04:19:20 PM
Like some other people, I've never worked off the clock and when I used to work nights and have to close myself, I'd be forced to stay 30-45 mins overtime just to get everything finished and in shape for the morning people. No one ever complained to me personally, but management did talk to my dept head about it once or twice and he just told them I helped a lot and I wasn't milking it like some other people who deliberately move slow or don't finish anything.
Nowadays though, if I stay even 15 minutes over for one day, the next morning I know about it. Word travels fast, or they care a lot more about morning OT than night.
Like some other people, I've never worked off the clock and when I used to work nights and have to close myself, I'd be forced to stay 30-45 mins overtime just to get everything finished and in shape for the morning people. No one ever complained to me personally, but management did talk to my dept head about it once or twice and he just told them I helped a lot and I wasn't milking it like some other people who deliberately move slow or don't finish anything.
Nowadays though, if I stay even 15 minutes over for one day, the next morning I know about it. Word travels fast, or they care a lot more about morning OT than night.
See that is the thing. As long as I'm getting the work done they say nothing other than "you good? everything okay?" And one of our back ups will actually help you out. However, the one time I did stay over like a few mins on my bday, once so I could write on a cake for a customer. I came in the next day and they were saying that the DH was looking for me. And when I found him. He and the manager above him were standing in one of the aisles across from the dept and they asked me about leaving "fashionably late". And I explained about the customer and my writing on the cake. But it shouldn't have taken that long. And they both were like, yea okay. Just don't let it happen again. But it's like are you serious? At most I've forgotten to clock out once. But I haven't deliberately been dicking around just because.
See that is the thing. As long as I'm getting the work done they say nothing other than "you good? everything okay?" And one of our back ups will actually help you out. However, the one time I did stay over like a few mins on my bday, once so I could write on a cake for a customer. I came in the next day and they were saying that the DH was looking for me. And when I found him. He and the manager above him were standing in one of the aisles across from the dept and they asked me about leaving "fashionably late". And I explained about the customer and my writing on the cake. But it shouldn't have taken that long. And they both were like, yea okay. Just don't let it happen again. But it's like are you serious? At most I've forgotten to clock out once. But I haven't deliberately been dicking around just because.
But if you didn't stay and write on the cake and your DH/manager found out, all hell would break loose.
