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Signing paper that Kroger is not liable if you fall outside in snow..?
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Has anyone else had to do this?

A courtesy clerk fell outside while trying to get carts and filed a incident report...

 

Now everyone is having to sign papers that say if you fall because of snow or ice while on the clock that Kroger is not liable for yardda yadda yadda...

 

Makes one wonder to what extent Kroger WOULD be liable if you injured yourself on the job...

 

 



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Has anyone else had to do this?

A courtesy clerk fell outside while trying to get carts and filed a incident report...

 

Now everyone is having to sign papers that say if you fall because of snow or ice while on the clock that Kroger is not liable for yardda yadda yadda...

 

Makes one wonder to what extent Kroger WOULD be liable if you injured yourself on the job...

 

 


 Don't ever sign anything like that.  It's unethical and possibly illegal depending on how the waiver is worded and if threats were used to try to get you to sign it.



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Refuse to sign, and encourage others to also refuse.

If there is retaliation, document and report through EthicsPoint, and file any possible grievances through your union.

 

Makes one wonder to what extent Kroger WOULD be liable if you injured yourself on the job...

Not very, it would seem . . . in Texas, at least.

On the morning of July 27, 2009, other employees of the Kroger store at which Austin worked performed an annual cleaning of the store's condenser units, housed on the roof, or mezzanine level, of the building. This process involved Kroger employees power-washing the condensers, which resulted in a brownie oily looking substance leaking through the store's ventilation ducts and creating spills in both the men's and women's restrooms. Austin's supervisor directed him to clean up whatever mess the condenser cleaning made. Austin had never worked on a day when the condensers had been power-washed and was, therefore, unfamiliar with the liquid he was to clean up.

Kroger's safety handbook recommends that store management make certain that a cleaning product called Spill Magic is adequately supplied at all times. Spill Magic is a powdery absorbent that allows a liquid spill to be cleaned with a broom and dustpan. Normally, Austin's utility cart, which Kroger provided, included Spill Magic. On the day the store cleaned its condenser units, however, Kroger did not have any Spill Magic available for Austin to use. Austin instead attempted to clean up the liquid with a dry mop. He successfully cleaned a small puddle in the women's restroom and then proceeded to clean the men's restroom, where the brownish liquid covered about eighty percent of the floor. Austin placed wet floor signs around the area and carefully took baby steps as he moved throughout the spill. After successfully cleaning thirty to forty percent of the spill in the men's restroom, Austin slipped in the remaining liquid and fell, fracturing his femur and dislocating his hip. As a result of his injuries, Austin spent nine months in the hospital and underwent six surgeries, leaving his left leg two inches shorter than his right leg.  -- http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1863124.html



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It's not just Texas... what about the poor woman who was actually killed while at work in her store?
www.timesreporter.com/article/20100428/news/304289819

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Anonymous wrote:

Has anyone else had to do this?

A courtesy clerk fell outside while trying to get carts and filed a incident report...

 

Now everyone is having to sign papers that say if you fall because of snow or ice while on the clock that Kroger is not liable for yardda yadda yadda...

 

Makes one wonder to what extent Kroger WOULD be liable if you injured yourself on the job...

 

 


 Haven't heard of something like this before. But would not be surprised. As I do recall that I over heard once, a manager going over some kind of incident report(this was well before winter hit), and something about the girl and someone else getting into some sort of situation. But the girl had to sign off on the report that she was being careless or something.

Which, I know I shouldn't judge anything from it, a) not being my biz in the first place, b) not having the full story so not sure if the girl was actually being careless or if the manager was just trying to get her to say that so that Kroger wouldn't be liable. But I don't know, I've heard about other somewhat shady things Kroger tries to get away with at times.

So can't say that they wouldn't most likely try this other places as well. And I definitely agree with the other posters that said don't sign something like this. I mean there is only so much room for error in nature true enough. But, I feel like an employer is responsible for it's employee's safety in and on their property. Most especially while doing their job. And in this case, when it is outdoors in the winter time.



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4hourrush wrote:

It's not just Texas... what about the poor woman who was actually killed while at work in her store?
www.timesreporter.com/article/20100428/news/304289819


 

Well, at least we now know the value of a human life: $17,000.

Krogrr gets off cheap and still bitches.

 



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If someone filed a injury claim members of that department normally have to file out a Safety 360 report. Its basically "retraining", by reading over the ways to prevent the injury again for other associates. After you read the document they have you sign, just saying you were retrained. But most times your like "How am I do prevent that in the future?", you don't try to slip on ice, you don't try to hit a car with carts.

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kroagrr wrote:
4hourrush wrote:

It's not just Texas... what about the poor woman who was actually killed while at work in her store?
www.timesreporter.com/article/20100428/news/304289819


 

Well, at least we now know the value of a human life: $17,000.

Krogrr gets off cheap and still bitches.

 


 Hate to put a pun in this. But what kills me, is that the poor woman died over the same **** we ALL have discussed here about how the pallets are stacked!!! And they are still bitching about how the training was followed etc. Dude, the priorities of a company at times. >_<



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I fell on ice and I got workmens Compensation they have insurance for these things and I wasn't clocked in yet I was walking into work!!!



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I am sure that is illegal in Georgia--two words: Worker's Comp!!!



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RE: Signing paper that Kroger is not liable if you fall outside or inside in Krogrr oil
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Texas allows Krogrr and other companies to opt out of the workers' compensation program.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2015/06/17/texas-workers-comp-ruling-is-two-edged-sword-for-employers

One thing that is bigger in Texas is the state's willingness to allow corporations to endanger and injure employees without consequence.



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