Would you be willing to go into detail as to why you are anti-union?
Also, can you go into detail on what you mean by this statement?
ExKrogerSlave wrote:
I also think it is extremely important for new hires to understand that if they don't consider some of these issues, they may be setting themselves up for issues that can and may plague them throughout their entire working life, even if they choose to leave, because of labor practices within the Kroger Company.
-- Edited by BagBoy on Wednesday 8th of May 2013 04:34:40 PM
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For those who have been a part of this forum for a while, I want to explain why I chose to appear here today. As you can see from my posts, I have been more active than apparently most.
I am no longer working for Kroger. I am no longer a UFCW member, although they will not, for some reason, stop sending me their propoganda.
I am fervently anti-union. I worked in a closed-shop state, meaning I was forced to join UFCW if I wanted to be employed by the Kroger Company.
I am here to answer questions. I had 15 years in with both Kroger and the UFCW. In that time, I was privy to many UFCW goings-on because of a unique position that I had personally with UFCW and Kroger insiders.
I know that there are many union stewards who distort the truth just as much as the Kroger Company does.
I was a guest of the company at our Mid-Atlantic headquarters in Roanoke, VA, and saw first-hand some of the ridiculousness of Key Retailing, and ELMS.
Although I tried to keep a relatively low profile while working for Kroger, because of family obligations, I am no longer attached to the Kroger or UFCW yoke.
I think it is extremely important for tenured employees to understand that they do not have to accept the standards of either the UFCW or Kroger.
I also think it is extremely important for new hires to understand that if they don't consider some of these issues, they may be setting themselves up for issues that can and may plague them throughout their entire working life, even if they choose to leave, because of labor practices within the Kroger Company.
The best thing that ever happened to me was working for the Kroger Company and being involved with the UFCW because it made me realize that I am worth more than either entity ever recognized, and it made me determined to better myself so I would not have to accept Kroger/UFCW rhetoric as reality.
We all owe it to our families and loved ones to seriously consider how working for Kroger and the UFCW affects one's psyche and overall work ethic.
I am here to tell people that, no matter what, you owe it to yourselves and your children or loved ones to not accept Kroger's or the UFCW's tactics as the end-all-be-all.
I hope I can stick around long enough to see some of you, if not most or ALL of you find betterment for yourselves.
Would you be willing to go into detail as to why you are anti-union?
Also, can you go into detail on what you mean by this statement?
ExKrogerSlave wrote:
I also think it is extremely important for new hires to understand that if they don't consider some of these issues, they may be setting themselves up for issues that can and may plague them throughout their entire working life, even if they choose to leave, because of labor practices within the Kroger Company.
yeah what happens at kroger that might plague me throughout my entire working life? that sounds pretty wild man whats going on
First, I am anti-union because the entire basis of labor unions was to protect employees from company abuse and ensure workplace safety. When the union generally sides with the company and aids and abets the abuse, they are no longer providing said protection and have become nothing more than the schoolyard bully. Give them your lunch money, and they won't add to the abuse. But you aren't being protected from anything really, except falling into bad standing with them (the Union, aka Biff the Bully). When you need them, odds are good that they will be counting your money and laughing with the company. If anyone believes that the Union and Kroger are completely separate, and that they really are at odds with each other the way the propaganda claims, I've got a piece of property on the Moon for sale.
I am also against the policy of allowing department heads to be union shop stewards. There is no easier way for department heads to abuse those they don't like. I have seen a few dept heads/stewards band together, full-well knowing what they are doing, and using the Union Contract (aka Scott 1000) to hide behind. They know what they can and can't get away with. The company looks the other way, supposedly because they "don't understand the contract". I have seen blatant abuse of power by dept heads/stewards with YEARS of Union negotiating committee experience, and these people claim that they misunderstood the contract.
The "future employment" detriment: what I am talking about is not only the reluctance to hire those with past union experience (out of concern that these people would try to unionize), but also the reverse-reality business/union practice of piling work upon those who are the most reliable. There is no reward for hard work in a unionized shop. As such, a person could and may develop work attitudes that will prevent them from gaining any better future work with another company. This isn't a "what-is-Kroger/Union-doing-to-me" as much as it is "how-is-this-job-affecting-me".
