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I was recently scheduled on two days outside of my availability despite the fact that I have had this availability since March. I informed my Payroll/Backup CSM that I already had plans and was not coming in on the day that was outside my availibility. The following day I receive a call from my CSM asking why I am not already there. I explained to her and she told me I had to call, which as far as I am aware I do NOT if I informed them ahead of time and confirmed the Payroll was working that given shift so someone would know in a relevant position, and that I was going to be written up for no call no show (even though they were clearly informed ahead of time). She thought she would inform me how she can violate our availability however Kroger pleases under guise of "needs of the business" which, as far as I am aware, is NOT in any contract we signed and our availability is protected by Union unlike most Union jobs where you have to suck it up.

I intend to deal with Union regarding the matter but is anyone informed on this situation?



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See what your union says.



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The part that has me particularly curious is the fact that Kroger openly advertises willingness to work with personal life/school/flexible hours but based on what I was told they can literally schedule me whenever they so please meaning this would be false advertising and illegal. In addition the E-Schedule availability is an agreed contract that they are violating. Anyone have informative an comment on the subject?



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I like the way you think.

Of course, the company prefers docile, compliant sheep, not critters who will bite back.  Make sure you're beyond your probationary period if you care to have a securer position from which to push back.

 

. . . "needs of the business" which, as far as I am aware, is NOT in any contract we signed and our availability is protected by Union unlike most Union jobs where you have to suck it up.

Do you have a copy, or can you point to it online?  "Needs of the business" is definitely present, unfortunately, in the Local 1000 contract.

 

 



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I have had a problem with eschedule in the past 2 weeks also, scheduling people outside of there ability


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I'm scheduled a day outside my availability. I'm not able to do part of the shift and have told them about it. I'm going to go within my availability, but will be calling 2 hours before the shift to let them know I'll be late.

As far as I know, in local 400, you can not be forced to work outside your approved availability. The schedule writer has to accept a prompt saying they understand that they are scheduling outside the availability window for the employee... so your CSM just doesn't care about your needs.

Calling in on the day in question is something you'd need to do despite having told everyone already.

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Our store manager(!) did this to this week's schedule, adding and changing around a bunch of shifts around people's availability, like making some people stay till midnight, and some come in as early as 6 (I got spared). He also cited "needs of the business", which of course was code for "bigwigs from Cincinnati are coming". Like our CSM pointed out though, it's ultimately counter-productive as we're a college town, so most of the people on the front end place higher priority on their studies than Kroger. So now we get to expect a bunch of call-outs and no shows from people who aren't scared of warnings and write-ups. Fun.

And our contract (Local 400) also cites "needs of the business" as being 1st priority when it comes to making schedules, followed by seniority, though I don't see anything regarding how availability is treated (if you can get punished for refusing to work past it, especially if you've got school/work).



-- Edited by Going 4011 on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:06:14 AM

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Our store manager(!) did this to this week's schedule, adding and changing around a bunch of shifts around people's availability, like making some people stay till midnight, and some come in as early as 6 (I got spared). He also cited "needs of the business", which of course was code for "bigwigs from Cincinnati are coming". Like our CSM pointed out though, it's ultimately counter-productive as we're a college town, so most of the people on the front end place higher priority on their studies than Kroger. So now we get to expect a bunch of call-outs and no shows from people who aren't scared of warnings and write-ups. Fun.

And our contract (Local 400) also cites "needs of the business" as being 1st priority when it comes to making schedules, followed by seniority, though I don't see anything regarding how availability is treated (if you can get punished for refusing to work past it, especially if you've got school/work).



-- Edited by Going 4011 on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:06:14 AM


 It's illegal to have someone in high school work past 10pm, but college is far more important than Kroger and skipping out on that would cause more problems than just calling in that day.



-- Edited by BagBoy on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:12:28 AM

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BagBoy wrote:
Going 4011 wrote:

Our store manager(!) did this to this week's schedule, adding and changing around a bunch of shifts around people's availability, like making some people stay till midnight, and some come in as early as 6 (I got spared). He also cited "needs of the business", which of course was code for "bigwigs from Cincinnati are coming". Like our CSM pointed out though, it's ultimately counter-productive as we're a college town, so most of the people on the front end place higher priority on their studies than Kroger. So now we get to expect a bunch of call-outs and no shows from people who aren't scared of warnings and write-ups. Fun.

And our contract (Local 400) also cites "needs of the business" as being 1st priority when it comes to making schedules, followed by seniority, though I don't see anything regarding how availability is treated (if you can get punished for refusing to work past it, especially if you've got school/work).



-- Edited by Going 4011 on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:06:14 AM


 It's illegal to have someone in high school work past 10pm, but college is far more important than Kroger and skipping out on that would cause more problems than just calling in that day.



-- Edited by BagBoy on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:12:28 AM


 I think minors can work untill 11pm now. I dont know why anyone would want to.

 

Almost a year ago, eschedule messed up everyone's availability, scheduling them with full open availability. 2 people where fired because they didn't come in on days that they normally did have to come in on because they where unavailable. From what they told me, they are glad they got out when they did and have better jobs now.



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Going 4011 wrote:

Our store manager(!) did this to this week's schedule, adding and changing around a bunch of shifts around people's availability, like making some people stay till midnight, and some come in as early as 6 (I got spared). He also cited "needs of the business", which of course was code for "bigwigs from Cincinnati are coming". Like our CSM pointed out though, it's ultimately counter-productive as we're a college town, so most of the people on the front end place higher priority on their studies than Kroger. So now we get to expect a bunch of call-outs and no shows from people who aren't scared of warnings and write-ups. Fun.

And our contract (Local 400) also cites "needs of the business" as being 1st priority when it comes to making schedules, followed by seniority, though I don't see anything regarding how availability is treated (if you can get punished for refusing to work past it, especially if you've got school/work).



-- Edited by Going 4011 on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:06:14 AM


 It's illegal to have someone in high school work past 10pm, but college is far more important than Kroger and skipping out on that would cause more problems than just calling in that day.



-- Edited by BagBoy on Monday 7th of September 2015 04:12:28 AM


 I think minors can work untill 11pm now. I dont know why anyone would want to.

 

Almost a year ago, eschedule messed up everyone's availability, scheduling them with full open availability. 2 people where fired because they didn't come in on days that they normally did have to come in on because they where unavailable. From what they told me, they are glad they got out when they did and have better jobs now.


 I'm glad they have found happiness, but they could have gotten their jobs back if they wanted to. I bet they didn't call to let them know they weren't able to be there either. Which lead to them getting fired.



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