It's been a pretty common belief for awhile now that Kroger is trying to limit full time status to as few positions as possible, like dept. head, assist. dept. head, and leads, and typically, overnight grocery is pretty good at hitting full time status, but when management isn't actively blocking daytime, non-key position employees and is in fact openly campaigning certain employees to get locked in and be full time, you know they're really, really struggling to retain help and get new help in. That's fine. I'll take the better insurance, higher pay cap and whatever else comes with full time status. :) Full time status with management's blessing? What has the world of Kroger retail come to? lol
They'd rather have one person they can trust to show up for 40 hours than 2 or 3 people who set Kroger at "low priority" and may or may not show up after their day job or classes. The extra, what, $1.50/h, wage average that it costs to set someone at full time is much cheaper than the costs for hiring a new mouth-breather every 3-6 months. And I'm not sure about anyone else's store, but at mine the benefits can't be costing Kroger much at ALL.
Want full-time? Enjoy having open availability, 24-7-364. They actually manage to treat full-time employees worse than part timers by raping their personal lives with this little tidbit. Think really hard about having this additional headache for the little 'perks'... or better yet, find another job that pays a little better (which is pretty much ALL of them).
Open availability means nothing to Kroger.
They just let the computer algorithms do their magical Harry Potter-like work and then say "Hmmm, yea, that looks okay to me. *click*"
And that is how you get your schedule.
Even if I somehow went back to Kroger - and I need a job, but I don't know if I need or want it THAT badly - the fact that the schedule came out weekly was a total pain in the ass.
You can't plan for something if you don't know that you will get approval or not.
Want full-time? Enjoy having open availability, 24-7-364. They actually manage to treat full-time employees worse than part timers by raping their personal lives with this little tidbit. Think really hard about having this additional headache for the little 'perks'... or better yet, find another job that pays a little better (which is pretty much ALL of them).
Without going into too much detail, let me just say that I've worked with people in the past and present at Kroger stores that are full time but not completely open with their availability, so it comes down more to what your dept. head/management team is willing to go along with than anything else. And any additional headaches that come along down the road would still happen, be it part time or full time. We all get to continue our endeavors outside of Kroger (which doesn't include a future at Kroger) in exchange for agreeing to work pretty much forty hours every week. A little extra money in the meantime plus better insurance will help.
-- Edited by GenesisOne on Wednesday 9th of September 2015 03:07:33 PM
My dept. head is trying to get me full time right now. The way our contract works, i might be able to get it soon but if not i wouldn't offiically get it until next year. But i'm getting full time hours now at least, it's it's because they simply can't keep anyone.
My dept. head is trying to get me full time right now. The way our contract works, i might be able to get it soon but if not i wouldn't offiically get it until next year. But i'm getting full time hours now at least, it's it's because they simply can't keep anyone.
I hope you officially get it, sooner rather than later!
But yeah... I'm pretty sure if Kroger was able to better retain/higher new help, full time wouldn't be on the table for us and others.
My dept. head is trying to get me full time right now. The way our contract works, i might be able to get it soon but if not i wouldn't offiically get it until next year. But i'm getting full time hours now at least, it's it's because they simply can't keep anyone.
I hope you officially get it, sooner rather than later!
But yeah... I'm pretty sure if Kroger was able to better retain/higher new help, full time wouldn't be on the table for us and others.
You're quite right. Most of the people that were full time got really tired of kroger's BS and quit shortly after Qvision took root and started ruling the lives of management and everyone else. Doing the job of a full time department clerk, a cashier, and a bagger all while being over 40yrs old can only lead to getting so stressed they look for another job, have a heart attack, or just strait up quit and that's exactly what happened.
Qvision killed people.
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GenesisOne wrote:Without going into too much detail, let me just say that I've worked with people in the past and present at Kroger stores that are full time but not completely open with their availability, so it comes down more to what your dept. head/management team is willing to go along with than anything else.
All full timers must be completely open with their availability, period. The management team might make a 'special exception' personally with an employee, but it is never guaranteed because you HAVE to have open availability to be full time.
GenesisOne wrote:Without going into too much detail, let me just say that I've worked with people in the past and present at Kroger stores that are full time but not completely open with their availability, so it comes down more to what your dept. head/management team is willing to go along with than anything else.
All full timers must be completely open with their availability, period. The management team might make a 'special exception' personally with an employee, but it is never guaranteed because you HAVE to have open availability to be full time.
I've worked with people that are full time that have clearly marked "unavailable" days on the schedule. I know people that work for Kroger, not necessarily at my location, that are full time, but unavailable certain days of the week. What you say is surely in most if not all contracts, but like a lot of stuff in the contracts that are negotiated with the union and like a lot of "official" Kroger corporate stuff, what's outlined in print a lot of times isn't followed in stores.
