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Buyouts and the management team getting paid well while Kroger approaches ....bankruptcy?  Is that sinister secularism?

 

Question for the Union and its Union workers at Kroger: are you secular too?  Would you do the same if you were in corporate?

 

If you are an atheist in the non-management ranks at Kroger, doesn't that make you a hypocrite by complaining that management is doing everything strictly for themselves while the non-management employees struggle to pay their bills?

 

Curious to know the thoughts of the atheistic people on this forum who are not in the management ranks.

 

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 I'm willing to argue with you, but you got to be coherent.

If I flipped this, man this big ass resurgence of Christian values sure is making alot of racism and nazi ideals normalized. The Christian worship of pain and suffering only leads down the path of horrific and inhumane treatment, for God sakes, their idol, the cross, is literally a instrument of torture that they worship.

 

 

See how stupid you sound when it's from a perspective you most likely disagree with. 

But... hundreds of salary-level management positions have been terminated company-wide with the possibility of more to come. These people have lost their jobs and from what's being said, depending on experience/years of service, the severance pay is said to not even be that good.

So... in this instance, being in the management ranks has led to a bad outcome for these people. Even those that are still employed, being a co-manager doesn't pay enough to maintain that lavish or comfortable of a lifestyle, especially if you have a kid or children.

I don't think a lot of these people have it quite as good as you think they do... especially now that they are out of a job.

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No. I actually quit the company and took a lower paying job cause I couldn't stand the way they treated people. What's your point? 

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Atheistic non-management people if promoted to a management position would treat people like crap too because their foundation is all about them (eat, drink and be merry).  Atheistic hourly people complaining about their treatment by management would be like calling the kettle black ...because they would do the same thing they despise being done to them right now.

 

That's what you would call a hypocrite.  I don't really respect complaining from atheistic Kroger hourly employees.

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Anonymous wrote:

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No. I actually quit the company and took a lower paying job cause I couldn't stand the way they treated people. What's your point? 

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Atheistic non-management people if promoted to a management position would treat people like crap too because their foundation is all about them (eat, drink and be merry).  Atheistic hourly people complaining about their treatment by management would be like calling the kettle black ...because they would do the same thing they despise being done to them right now.

 

That's what you would call a hypocrite.  I don't really respect complaining from atheistic Kroger hourly employees.

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 I'm literally proof you are wrong. I'm a atheist, I use to have a live and let live mentality, but I encountered one too many people like you.

I was management, I quit over a year ago because I knew no God would help any of these people and I didn't want to be their opressor, Christianity got that **** on lockdown. 

 

If we are just slinging fake bull****, how come all, yes all, Christian molest children?  Evertyime someone gets caught diddleing a little kid their Christian? How come every time a Christian has a mental break they drowned their kids and murder their spouses? But a atheist with a mental break sees a therapist and pops some pills.

If your going to support a oppressive ancient idealology that is wrong and hurts people, you oughta just be a nazi my man. 

 

Also I assume your white, God doesn't want us talking!

Genesis 11:1-9.  KJV

WAAAAA WAAAAA OLD TESTAMENT. 

Mathew 5:17. KJV

I know more about your religion than you, if you want this to continue let me know what sect your part so I can stop speaking so broadly and just dismantle your personal idol. 

 

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 I'm literally proof you are wrong. I'm a atheist, I use to have a live and let live mentality, but I encountered one too many people like you.

I was management, I quit over a year ago because I knew no God would help any of these people and I didn't want to be their opressor, Christianity got that **** on lockdown. 

 

If we are just slinging fake bull****, how come all, yes all, Christian molest children?  Evertyime someone gets caught diddleing a little kid their Christian? How come every time a Christian has a mental break they drowned their kids and murder their spouses? But a atheist with a mental break sees a therapist and pops some pills.

If your going to support a oppressive ancient idealology that is wrong and hurts people, you oughta just be a nazi my man. 

 

Also I assume your white, God doesn't want us talking!

Genesis 11:1-9.  KJV

WAAAAA WAAAAA OLD TESTAMENT. 

Mathew 5:17. KJV

I know more about your religion than you, if you want this to continue let me know what sect your part so I can stop speaking so broadly and just dismantle your personal idol. 

 

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Ok, I'm game.

 

What's the lead-off point or question you'd like to make?  Please make it relevant to Kroger as much as possible.  You can go first.

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You know what? If they're hurting/molesting little kids, they're PRETENDING to be Christian...In the same vein, if they're treating people like crap, they're PRETENDING to be Christian...Any REAL Christian worth his or her salt with even some semblance of a moral backbone would know at least somewhat what is wrong and what is right...I don't claim to be perfect, but a crime is a crime no matter who the perpetrator or perpetuator is...You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater just because someone takes an ideology and profanes it with their abhorrent behavior either...And it goes both ways! Besides, there are plenty of atheists and those of other religions who can be or are JUST as culpable and guilty for unspeakable crimes...They may not get the press or notoriety, but they're no less culpable or guilty than anyone else...So what's your point???

Talk about your stereotypes!!!D

Leviticus 20:9

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

 

You are literally lying.  I'm literally quoting God and you are just sitting her going "omg that's not what he meant". Isn't knowing better than God a sin? 

Your group accepts and encourages rape, slavery, and child rape, and murder. I would have a live and let live, but the fact you can't even begin to acknowledge the evils of your beliefs is horrifically disgusting and alarming. 

I'm still quoting the KJV while I wait for your personal sect of Christianity.  Or you just one of those umbrella Christians of convenience. 

Lending is immoral to your religion too, I hope you ain't got credit cards or a house, God gonna get pissy. 

Grow up and come back when you got something more than "feelings" on what you Think Christianity is.

No true Scottsman right!?! No one's Christian unless. Their MY Christian right? 

I assume the OP is "assuming" that atheists have no morals, and the Christians do - False premise.

 

Plenty of Christians are amoral, or live by what some here have dubbed a "me first" attitude - survival of the fittest.

 

 Not sure what religion has to do with anything regarding this subject.

 

 Yeah, capitalism has some bad qualities, and greediness is the major one, but the problem with socialists is they think they can get the rich to stop being greedy and to give up their money just by guilt tripping them. It's so stupid that it's funny. That's the only strategy - the only power they have is to cry, "Whaaaah! that guy has more money than I do and won't give me any."

 

 If you want it, you have to go get it.

 

 Furthermore, the liberal's idea that rich people "stole" this money is also flawed. Most of those complaining still take their money every week and give it all straight to capitalistic things - spend it, waste, it, buy an iPhone, some McDonald's, some $5 Starbucks coffee and then cry that the corporations stole the money out of their wallet. They want the fruits of Capitalism, but don't want to pay the price for them.

 

 I mean, I had some friends complaining about it the other day - how some rich people blow money on extravagant things that are filled with so much modern technology that it's too lavish. Well, that's what's great about Capitalism. If it weren't for the rich, and the governments/military spending money on these technologies, these technologies would not exist. Everyone is a direct beneficiary of these technologies, so stop crying. This is why you have a car, a house, refrigerator, all kinds of food, internet, computers, smart phones - all of it. Without Capitalism, you'd be living in the woods in a shack made of sticks. Therefore, the greedy rich people are a necessary evil.

 

 Socialists have ZERO understanding of "motivation," and what motivates people. If they did understand it, they'd be Capitalists.

 

 The fact that some rich guy can spend $5 million on a state of the art sports car is the main reason people are making state of the art sports cars. The money is always the motivation. Idiots think we can all sit at home on our asses and live well. Because the government just prints more money, I guess. Not realizing that the money is just a representation of labor. If you want to sit on your ass and eat food for free and have no money, how will you pay me to grow your food? If i'm not getting paid for my food, because your ass is eating it for free, then where is my motivation to keep creating the food you eat? Soon, we're all homeless and hungry.

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You know what? If they're hurting/molesting little kids, they're PRETENDING to be Christian...In the same vein, if they're treating people like crap, they're PRETENDING to be Christian...Any REAL Christian worth his or her salt with even some semblance of a moral backbone would know at least somewhat what is wrong and what is right...I don't claim to be perfect, but a crime is a crime no matter who the perpetrator or perpetuator is...You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater just because someone takes an ideology and profanes it with their abhorrent behavior either...And it goes both ways! Besides, there are plenty of atheists and those of other religions who can be or are JUST as culpable and guilty for unspeakable crimes...They may not get the press or notoriety, but they're no less culpable or guilty than anyone else...So what's your point???

Talk about your stereotypes!!!D

Leviticus 20:9

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

 

You are literally lying.  I'm literally quoting God and you are just sitting her going "omg that's not what he meant". Isn't knowing better than God a sin? 

Your group accepts and encourages rape, slavery, and child rape, and murder. I would have a live and let live, but the fact you can't even begin to acknowledge the evils of your beliefs is horrifically disgusting and alarming. 

I'm still quoting the KJV while I wait for your personal sect of Christianity.  Or you just one of those umbrella Christians of convenience. 

Lending is immoral to your religion too, I hope you ain't got credit cards or a house, God gonna get pissy. 

Grow up and come back when you got something more than "feelings" on what you Think Christianity is.

No true Scottsman right!?! No one's Christian unless. Their MY Christian right? 

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 What I am saying is that there are bad people on ALL sides, Christian, Atheist, Agnostic or anything else anyone decides to call themselves...We ALL have faults...No one is immune from sin...One group, religion or even sect of Christianity is not necessarily "better" than the other groups if they are JUST as bad, immoral, evil, spiteful, cruel, etc. It's like two wrongs trying to make a right where there is no right because they're BOTH wrong...REAL CHRISTIANS (and not just people who call themselves that) do NOT encourage rape, slavery, child rape OR murder and they shouldn't be judging books by their covers, either...What is it about when you point a finger, three fingers are pointing back at you? Or taking the log out of your own eye to see clearly before taking the speck out of your brother's eye? (Matthew 7:5, Luke 6:42) Have we forgotten that "little thing" called The Ten Commandments, too? Have we forgotten the 11th (John 13:34)? It's all in The Book...Again, I am NOT perfect and I have to continue PRAYING for forgiveness, knowledge and clarity on a daily basis because it is ALL I have to fight with and my only hope...And all I can do is to continue growing and learning every day...Yes, Christianity has evil people in it pretending to follow the tenets of the religion, but that has much more to do with the individual people in it than the ACTUAL faith itself...

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Capitalism itself isn't the problem.

Unfettered capitalism is. Too many people exploiting tax loopholes and stashing away money via various means in order to avoid paying what they should be according to current tax code.

Not all the blame should be placed on the corporations and the rich. But also, not all of the blame should be placed on the poor and middle class. Plenty of blame to go around. Personal responsibility has to play a role, but the system needs to be better balanced and not just as heavily weighed in the favor of the rich and powerful.

Reality is the economy is changing. A dollar today doesn't buy you what a dollar twenty years ago did. Costs are up yet wage growth isn't. Automation is increasing as is the population. Fewer jobs but more people.

We have to reevaluate how the economy functions overall, especially if we want to create new job sectors and reduce the growing strain on the social safety net.

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 The Federal Reserve devaluing the dollar is a major part of the issue. Too much government in general is also a problem.

Who is going bankrupt? The company isn't going bankrupt, its just not making the $$$ that Wall Street wants. With Wall Street,reality isn't always in the equation.

Kroger is nowhere near bankrupcy; it's just not sufficiently profitable.

But even then, it wouldn't really matter.  Look at Sears, Kmart, JC Penney, etc.  A properly mismanaged company can exist as a shuffling corpse for at least a decade.