Kroger Covid shot mandate???

Date: Oct 7, 2021

Kroger Covid shot mandate???

Date: Oct 7, 2021

So far only Walmart employees who work in the corporate office or who travel are required to get the vaccine. Regular employees who work in the stores are not. I seriously doubt Kroger would ever impose a vaccine mandate for all employees since it would probably cause a good number of people to quit and they (Kroger) really can't afford to do that right now. As far as Biden's so-called mandate goes, that's pretty much being ignored right now.

From what I've heard, any changes in OSHA regulations have to go through Congress, since they're the ones who actually make the laws, not the President. Here in Kentucky, our Democratic governor was making all kinds of Covid mandates until the Kentucky Supreme Court stepped in and put a stop to it. Now everything has to go through the legislature, which is the way it should be. I also read that OSHA isn't doing anything about Biden's mandate because the scope of actually trying to enforce it would be too much for them to handle. There are also a few states, Kentucky is one of them, that don't fall under the National OSHA guidelines. They have OSHA regulations, but they are run by the state.

EUID_Unknown · Guru

In reality people just need to get past the mandate, and understand what might happen if you don't get the vaccine. Its simple, the vaccine isn't going to prevent you from getting COVID, it simply allows your body a jump start on fighting it. If your body doesn't know how to fight it, it might start shutting down or it might not. The problem is if a larger percentage of people have issues, hospitals can't handle the load. Hospitals are not like they use to be, and in general the number of hospitals haven't increased with population growth. You know how they say "Out Patient" for a majority of issues? Because you go home after the procedure, and there is no hospital bed required overnight and or staffing. Look up your local hospital and see how many "beds" they list, that is how many patients they can have overnight, with minimal staffing. COVID cases require a larger staffing requirement. OH.....remember Heart Attacks, Car Wrecks and everything else that happened before still happens. OH.....remember how I said hospital beds, how many people live in your town or community? What happens when 1000 people in your community get sick with COVID with bad cases of COVID and need to stay in the hospital for 1 week?

That is the only reason for a mandate...... So if you do get COVID, its a simple issue of just needing sleep and rest.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 01:11:46 AM

Date: Oct 9, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
In reality people just need to get past the mandate, and understand what might happen if you don't get the vaccine. Its simple, the vaccine isn't going to prevent you from getting COVID, it simply allows your body a jump start on fighting it. If your body doesn't know how to fight it, it might start shutting down or it might not. The problem is if a larger percentage of people have issues, hospitals can't handle the load. Hospitals are not like they use to be, and in general the number of hospitals haven't increased with population growth. You know how they say "Out Patient" for a majority of issues? Because you go home after the procedure, and there is no hospital bed required overnight and or staffing. Look up your local hospital and see how many "beds" they list, that is how many patients they can have overnight, with minimal staffing. COVID cases require a larger staffing requirement. OH.....remember Heart Attacks, Car Wrecks and everything else that happened before still happens. OH.....remember how I said hospital beds, how many people live in your town or community? What happens when 1000 people in your community get sick with COVID with bad cases of COVID and need to stay in the hospital for 1 week?

That is the only reason for a mandate...... So if you do get COVID, its a simple issue of just needing sleep and rest.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 01:11:46 AM

No people dont need to get past the mandate. If their right not to take some kinda injection with god knows whatevers in it. People need to get over others not wanting to take that.

EUID_Unknown · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
In reality people just need to get past the mandate, and understand what might happen if you don't get the vaccine. Its simple, the vaccine isn't going to prevent you from getting COVID, it simply allows your body a jump start on fighting it. If your body doesn't know how to fight it, it might start shutting down or it might not. The problem is if a larger percentage of people have issues, hospitals can't handle the load. Hospitals are not like they use to be, and in general the number of hospitals haven't increased with population growth. You know how they say "Out Patient" for a majority of issues? Because you go home after the procedure, and there is no hospital bed required overnight and or staffing. Look up your local hospital and see how many "beds" they list, that is how many patients they can have overnight, with minimal staffing. COVID cases require a larger staffing requirement. OH.....remember Heart Attacks, Car Wrecks and everything else that happened before still happens. OH.....remember how I said hospital beds, how many people live in your town or community? What happens when 1000 people in your community get sick with COVID with bad cases of COVID and need to stay in the hospital for 1 week?

That is the only reason for a mandate...... So if you do get COVID, its a simple issue of just needing sleep and rest.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 01:11:46 AM
No people dont need to get past the mandate. If their right not to take some kinda injection with god knows whatevers in it. People need to get over others not wanting to take that.

Your correct it is their right to decide, but then again do you know what is in any vaccines you got? Do you really know what is in anything you consume? Also, if you decide to not take the vaccine, should there be a hospital specially for COVID treatment of the un-vaccinated? It seems hospitals have a high percentage of beds full of COVID patients (taking beds for weeks or months), so they are unable to treat patients with other serious medical illnesses.

Not starting there is a right answer, just opening dialog.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 02:08:50 PM

Date: Oct 9, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
In reality people just need to get past the mandate, and understand what might happen if you don't get the vaccine. Its simple, the vaccine isn't going to prevent you from getting COVID, it simply allows your body a jump start on fighting it. If your body doesn't know how to fight it, it might start shutting down or it might not. The problem is if a larger percentage of people have issues, hospitals can't handle the load. Hospitals are not like they use to be, and in general the number of hospitals haven't increased with population growth. You know how they say "Out Patient" for a majority of issues? Because you go home after the procedure, and there is no hospital bed required overnight and or staffing. Look up your local hospital and see how many "beds" they list, that is how many patients they can have overnight, with minimal staffing. COVID cases require a larger staffing requirement. OH.....remember Heart Attacks, Car Wrecks and everything else that happened before still happens. OH.....remember how I said hospital beds, how many people live in your town or community? What happens when 1000 people in your community get sick with COVID with bad cases of COVID and need to stay in the hospital for 1 week?

That is the only reason for a mandate...... So if you do get COVID, its a simple issue of just needing sleep and rest.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 01:11:46 AM
No people dont need to get past the mandate. If their right not to take some kinda injection with god knows whatevers in it. People need to get over others not wanting to take that.
Your correct it is their right to decide, but then again do you know what is in any vaccines you got? Do you really know what is in anything you consume? Also, if you decide to not take the vaccine, should there be a hospital specially for COVID treatment of the un-vaccinated? It seems hospitals have a high percentage of beds full of COVID patients (taking beds for weeks or months), so they are unable to treat patients with other serious medical illnesses.
Not starting there is a right answer, just opening dialog.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 02:08:50 PM

This whole Covid thing has been one lie after another. If it wasn't, then everybody would be in agreement with the course of action. When you get away from what the Liberal mainstream media is telling you, what Biden is telling you, what the CDC is telling you, and what Fauci is telling you and start following what other doctors and other medical professionals are saying, it really casts doubt on the established narrative.

For example, the established narrative says wearing masks helps slow down the spread of the virus. Where is their proof? Just because a large crowd of people all wear masks and nobody tests positive for Covid does not mean that the masks stopped the virus. If no one in the group was carrying the virus, then naturally there wouldn't be any spread. You can say the same thing for the reverse. Just because someone catches Covid and no one involved was wearing a mask does not mean that they would not have caught Covid had everyone been wearing masks. I also believe there was an actual scientific study during the SARS-1 epidemic that proved that the typical mask that you see the majority of people wearing do little to stop the spread of viruses.

When it come to the vaccine, it doesn't keep you from getting the virus. Therefore, it does keep you from spreading it. Until now, that was the whole point of a vaccine. Several studies have shown that vaccinated people who contract the virus shed just as much virus as unvaccinated people who contract the virus. Remember all that talk about asymptomatic transmission? You don't hear anything about that anymore because it's being caused by people who are vaccinated. The Liberal media and all the others aren't going to report this because it doesn't fit the narrative. Why are they all doing this? Following the money trail. You'd be amazed at how many of these people making all these decisions are somehow connected to the big pharmaceutical companies. If not them, then it's a close relative such as a spouse or a child.

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
In reality people just need to get past the mandate, and understand what might happen if you don't get the vaccine. Its simple, the vaccine isn't going to prevent you from getting COVID, it simply allows your body a jump start on fighting it. If your body doesn't know how to fight it, it might start shutting down or it might not. The problem is if a larger percentage of people have issues, hospitals can't handle the load. Hospitals are not like they use to be, and in general the number of hospitals haven't increased with population growth. You know how they say "Out Patient" for a majority of issues? Because you go home after the procedure, and there is no hospital bed required overnight and or staffing. Look up your local hospital and see how many "beds" they list, that is how many patients they can have overnight, with minimal staffing. COVID cases require a larger staffing requirement. OH.....remember Heart Attacks, Car Wrecks and everything else that happened before still happens. OH.....remember how I said hospital beds, how many people live in your town or community? What happens when 1000 people in your community get sick with COVID with bad cases of COVID and need to stay in the hospital for 1 week?

That is the only reason for a mandate...... So if you do get COVID, its a simple issue of just needing sleep and rest.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 01:11:46 AM
No people dont need to get past the mandate. If their right not to take some kinda injection with god knows whatevers in it. People need to get over others not wanting to take that.
Your correct it is their right to decide, but then again do you know what is in any vaccines you got? Do you really know what is in anything you consume? Also, if you decide to not take the vaccine, should there be a hospital specially for COVID treatment of the un-vaccinated? It seems hospitals have a high percentage of beds full of COVID patients (taking beds for weeks or months), so they are unable to treat patients with other serious medical illnesses.
Not starting there is a right answer, just opening dialog.

-- Edited by EUID_Unknown on Saturday 9th of October 2021 02:08:50 PM
This whole Covid thing has been one lie after another. If it wasn't, then everybody would be in agreement with the course of action. When you get away from what the Liberal mainstream media is telling you, what Biden is telling you, what the CDC is telling you, and what Fauci is telling you and start following what other doctors and other medical professionals are saying, it really casts doubt on the established narrative.
For example, the established narrative says wearing masks helps slow down the spread of the virus. Where is their proof? Just because a large crowd of people all wear masks and nobody tests positive for Covid does not mean that the masks stopped the virus. If no one in the group was carrying the virus, then naturally there wouldn't be any spread. You can say the same thing for the reverse. Just because someone catches Covid and no one involved was wearing a mask does not mean that they would not have caught Covid had everyone been wearing masks. I also believe there was an actual scientific study during the SARS-1 epidemic that proved that the typical mask that you see the majority of people wearing do little to stop the spread of viruses.
When it come to the vaccine, it doesn't keep you from getting the virus. Therefore, it does keep you from spreading it. Until now, that was the whole point of a vaccine. Several studies have shown that vaccinated people who contract the virus shed just as much virus as unvaccinated people who contract the virus. Remember all that talk about asymptomatic transmission? You don't hear anything about that anymore because it's being caused by people who are vaccinated. The Liberal media and all the others aren't going to report this because it doesn't fit the narrative. Why are they all doing this? Following the money trail. You'd be amazed at how many of these people making all these decisions are somehow connected to the big pharmaceutical companies. If not them, then it's a close relative such as a spouse or a child.

You want proof that viral spread is limited by distancing, handwashing, and masks? Look no further than the Flu virus for this year as compared to previous years. The transmission for this year has dropped drastically from last year. WORLDWIDE.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 05:33:34 PM

Date: Oct 9, 2021

BagBoy wrote:

You want proof that viral spread is limited by distancing, handwashing, and masks? Look no further than the Flu virus for this year as compared to previous years. The transmission for this year has dropped drastically from last year. WORLDWIDE.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 05:33:34 PM

I'll agree with you when it comes to distancing and handwashing, but that's nothing new. People have always done those things when it comes to preventing the spread of germs because they've been proven to work. If you feel sick, you stay away from other people to keep from spreading your germs. Think of how often you touch your face with your hands. Clean hands keep you from introducing germs into your eyes, nose and mouth. In order to prove that masks are effective you have to be able to eliminate all other variables. You can't say a mask kept you from catching Covid if you were diligent about washing hands or if you never came within several feet of another person.

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:

You want proof that viral spread is limited by distancing, handwashing, and masks? Look no further than the Flu virus for this year as compared to previous years. The transmission for this year has dropped drastically from last year. WORLDWIDE.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 05:33:34 PM
I'll agree with you when it comes to distancing and handwashing, but that's nothing new. People have always done those things when it comes to preventing the spread of germs because they've been proven to work. If you feel sick, you stay away from other people to keep from spreading your germs. Think of how often you touch your face with your hands. Clean hands keep you from introducing germs into your eyes, nose and mouth. In order to prove that masks are effective you have to be able to eliminate all other variables. You can't say a mask kept you from catching Covid if you were diligent about washing hands or if you never came within several feet of another person.

Masks aren't essentially meant to prevent you from getting anything. They are to keep people from spreading it within the two-week incubation period of the virus in which people don't know that they have it. Although if used properly (aka you not touching/adjusting ALL THE TIME) then the likelihood of catching the virus does go down.

COVID, the cold, and flu viruses use the moisture in your breath or when you sneeze to escape the body and infect other hosts. Masks are able to contain the moisture of your breath just fine as it's much larger than individual virus cells.

Ultimately, the masks aren't for you - it's for other people. Not wearing one, even if you don't have a virus, is selfish and comes off as uncaring.

Vaccines are what help you fight off an infection when you eventually get it. They aren't meant for prevention either, btw.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 08:09:44 PM

Date: Oct 9, 2021

BagBoy wrote:
Vaccines are what help you fight off an infection when you eventually get it. They aren't meant for prevention either, btw.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 08:09:44 PM

Who told you that? Is that the CDC's new definition of a vaccine? My Webster's dictionary says a vaccine is a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a disease.

Immunity: A condition of being able to resist a particular disease.

That means if it works, you don't catch it all. A vaccine either works or it doesn't work. There is no middle ground. According to your definition of a vaccine, people should get a vaccine every time they get sick because vaccines, "help you fight off an infection".

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:
Vaccines are what help you fight off an infection when you eventually get it. They aren't meant for prevention either, btw.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 08:09:44 PM
Who told you that? Is that the CDC's new definition of a vaccine? My Webster's dictionary says a vaccine is a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a disease.
Immunity: A condition of being able to resist a particular disease.
That means if it works, you don't catch it all. A vaccine either works or it doesn't work. There is no middle ground. According to your definition of a vaccine, people should get a vaccine every time they get sick because vaccines, "help you fight off an infection".

It's called efficacy rate, might wanna look it up. Some vaccines are better at producing a biological response to a foreign invader than others. The virus can still enter the body and infect it. Defending against something that has entered the body is made easier by the bodies familiarity with it. It's not a magic shield that can defend you from something outside of yourself.

If you want to go by your definition you may want to look at the word used before "immunity". The word "resist" is pretty accurate.

Just because you don't understand how vaccines work and are helpful I would suggest you watch Cell's At Work. That might be on your level and entertain while educating you in the process.

Date: Oct 9, 2021

BagBoy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:
Vaccines are what help you fight off an infection when you eventually get it. They aren't meant for prevention either, btw.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 08:09:44 PM
Who told you that? Is that the CDC's new definition of a vaccine? My Webster's dictionary says a vaccine is a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a disease.
Immunity: A condition of being able to resist a particular disease.
That means if it works, you don't catch it all. A vaccine either works or it doesn't work. There is no middle ground. According to your definition of a vaccine, people should get a vaccine every time they get sick because vaccines, "help you fight off an infection".
It's called efficacy rate, might wanna look it up. Some vaccines are better at producing a biological response to a foreign invader than others. The virus can still enter the body and infect it. Defending against something that has entered the body is made easier by the bodies familiarity with it. It's not a magic shield that can defend you from something outside of yourself.
If you want to go by your definition you may want to look at the word used before "immunity". The word "resist" is pretty accurate.
Just because you don't understand how vaccines work and are helpful I would suggest you watch Cell's At Work. That might be on your level and entertain while educating you in the process.

It's obvious that you've been brainwashed. God himself wouldn't be able to convince you otherwise. By the way, it's cells. You don't use apostrophes to make plurals except in rare circumstances. Also, I'm probably much older and wiser than you.

Date: Oct 9, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
In reality people just need to get past the mandate

Get past the mandate? Have you forgotten why our forefathers seceded from England and the tyranical rule of King George III? Have you forgotten why we have have three branches of government and about the system of checks and balances? It is not the role of the President (one person) to make the law. Congress makes the laws.

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
BagBoy wrote:
Vaccines are what help you fight off an infection when you eventually get it. They aren't meant for prevention either, btw.

-- Edited by BagBoy on Saturday 9th of October 2021 08:09:44 PM
Who told you that? Is that the CDC's new definition of a vaccine? My Webster's dictionary says a vaccine is a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a disease.
Immunity: A condition of being able to resist a particular disease.
That means if it works, you don't catch it all. A vaccine either works or it doesn't work. There is no middle ground. According to your definition of a vaccine, people should get a vaccine every time they get sick because vaccines, "help you fight off an infection".
It's called efficacy rate, might wanna look it up. Some vaccines are better at producing a biological response to a foreign invader than others. The virus can still enter the body and infect it. Defending against something that has entered the body is made easier by the bodies familiarity with it. It's not a magic shield that can defend you from something outside of yourself.
If you want to go by your definition you may want to look at the word used before "immunity". The word "resist" is pretty accurate.
Just because you don't understand how vaccines work and are helpful I would suggest you watch Cell's At Work. That might be on your level and entertain while educating you in the process.

It's obvious that you've been brainwashed. God himself wouldn't be able to convince you otherwise. By the way, it's cells. You don't use apostrophes to make plurals except in rare circumstances. Also, I'm probably much older and wiser than you.

Don't listen to idiots on facebook who tell you to ingest bleach as a cure-all. You're old and gullible. You're undoubtedly someone not worth listening to.

And before you go on about "do your own research", if someone hasn't done their do diligence this far into a pandemic, 2 years on, then they are lazy and incompetent.

BTW, If God were to come down and tell me herself that the vaccines were going to kill me then I'd be sure to listen to her.

Date: Oct 11, 2021

Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?

KrogerBagger · Veteran Member

Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?

Fax

BagBoy · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?

Aren't you just adorable.

Date: Oct 11, 2021

We all know the government never ever lies, ever.

EUID_Unknown · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?

Are they drying from the vaccines? Are people not dying from COVID?

People die from all medication, but in most instances the medicine is better then the illness.

Date: Oct 11, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?
Are they drying from the vaccines? Are people not dying from COVID?
People die from all medication, but in most instances the medicine is better then the illness.

Than.

Date: Oct 12, 2021

BagBoy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?
Aren't you just adorable.

You dirty sheep!

Date: Oct 13, 2021

I'm against the mandate and have no intention of taking the vaccine either, but the anti-vax arguments in here are dumb as ****.

FrontEndSlave · Guru

**** anyone who tries to force you to get the vaccine or tries to pressure you to get it.
It is your choice. Not theirs. We have been through this with other diseases in the past.
The only reason this one is such a cluster**** is because it happened during a Presidential election cycle.
If not for that, we'd be able to actually shake hands and not seen as murderers.

Date: Oct 20, 2021

Colin Powell was fully vaccinated.

If four star generals and Secretary's of State are getting vaccinated, so should you.

Date: Oct 20, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Colin Powell was fully vaccinated.

A lot of good it did him. I really don't understand the logic when someone dies from Covid after receiving the vaccine and people say it's because other people weren't vaccinated. That's like saying I got sunburned because you weren't wearing sunscreen. If you're vaccinated, you're protected. At least that's the way it is with all other vaccines. They changed the rules with this one. It's been proven that vaccinated people carry just as much viral load as as unvaccinated people. So the only thing that's going to stop the virus is to let it run its course naturally.

Date: Oct 21, 2021

Vaccine doesnt seem to help at all. Colin Powell died and was vaxxed so.. what we need more than ever now is hazard pay.

Kroger-Employee · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
Vaccine doesnt seem to help at all. Colin Powell died and was vaxxed so.. what we need more than ever now is hazard pay.

Vaccine DOES help reduce the symptoms if you get the Covid. It greatly reduces the chances that you will be so sick you'll need to go to the hospital. BUT it is not a cure-all. But it is still worth it to get the vaccine. You have to balance the pros with the cons, and the vaccine definitely improves your chances of surviving. As they say in business / marketing: What is the "COST/BENEFIT" ratio????

Colin Powell already had cancer and Parkinson's disease so this is no surprise that adding Covid to his list of ailments caused his death.

KrogerBagger · Veteran Member

Sure it helps reduce symptoms, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is worth getting the vaccine. If you can still get sick, have a good chance of having side effects from it, and the added fact that we don't have any long-term data on possible bad effects, that makes me not want to get it. I've had covid and I'm in a super low-risk category, and I don't see any reason to be vaccinated.

Date: Oct 22, 2021

https://www.infowars.com/posts/mercola-are-the-covid-jabs-responsible-for-rising-mortality-trends/

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Anonymous wrote

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?

No, they're dying from misinformation and disinformation, as well as stubbornness and just plain stupidity...I've been taking the flu vaccine for years...Hasn't killed me yet...If they wanted to kill me, the flu vaccine would be just as lethal as a COVID shot, but the FACTS are NEITHER ONE is...I could see someone saying "Let's put all this division and suspicion into the world and fuel it with a lot of misinformation...We can kill all the stupid people and control the population growth"...Sorry, but I've had enough...When all the stupid people end up in the hospital, don't come to me for help...You're bound to get a bunch of "I told you so's"...

You're talking to someone who had COVID for many weeks...All the hallmarks were COVID, and not the flu, pnuemonia, bronchitis, etc. of which I've had those as a kid, so I know what THEY are about...When I had COVID, it was WORSE than all of those because it lasted longer and I was off work for much longer and I probably developed some long-hauler issues in other areas due to that...Oh, COVID is real...The ones who deny it will find that out sooner or later, but I have no sympathy for people overrunning the hospitals, coming down sick with this illness, especially when there are limited hospital beds and not enough nurses on staff, due to shortages, in some places...

Go ahead...Argue! I'm done...I guess you'll all just have to see for yourselves...I only hope it's not too late for you by the time you find out...

Do me one favor, though...Learn to think for yourselves...Read a lot of scientific literature and articles...Look at this thing objectively...Think a little more about what you are saying and believing and whether any of it makes sense to a normal person (or the vast majority of people) and not just the choir you're preaching to...Study the history of pandemics, illness and medical treatments in this country and the world...Right wing media can be just as bad as left wing media sometimes...NEITHER ONE gets it right all the time...Realize when people are unconsciously (or consciously) trying to manipulate you with lies...Remember that truth is often somewhere in the middle and not on the fringes...Have a more well-rounded view of life...A lot of people trusted (and got excited about) snake oil salesmen peddling quack cures and dubious treatments in the 19th Century and it didn't help them any then, either...They still died...I'm just sayin'...

Date: Oct 22, 2021

KrogerBagger wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Flu is down because the government fudged the numbers and counted everything as COVID. Gotta scare and control people. BagBoy is one of those sheep who doesnt think for himself.

Why are people dying from these so called vaccines?
Fax

Not fax...You must have got it wrong...Lies...Plain and simple...

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
I'm against the mandate and have no intention of taking the vaccine either, but the anti-vax arguments in here are dumb as ****.

No one should take a vaccine on a mandate alone, but one might want to rethink their position, if they have family or friends with a compromised immune system...A lot of people are ending up with regrets because one of their loved ones got sick and they could've done more to stop it...

Look up the anti-vax/right wing/anti-mask radio personalities Phil Valentine, Dick Farrell, Marc Bernier, Bob Enyart and conspiracy theorist Robert David Steele, anti-masker Caleb Wallace and conservative GOP leader Pressley Stutts...All of them died from COVID and a few even recanted their anti-vax stances before they died...Caleb Wallace was a self-proclaimed "freedom fighter" who left behind a pregnant wife and three kids...Why would he deprive them of a husband and a father by being so anti-vax??? He was only 30 years old, too...South Carolina GOP leader Pressley Stutts said it best from his ICU bed..."COVID is nothing to fool with and in as much as possible, it is up to you to take the best precautions for you and your family to avoid getting it!" He later called the virus "hell on earth"...In a Facebook post before he died, he wrote "When you have to take every single ounce just to get your next breath, you know you are in the battle for your life! I IMPLORE YOU....PLEASE PRAY THAT GOD MOVES MIGHTILY IN MY BODY. ISOLATED. DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER I CAN ENDURE WITHOUT YOUR PRAYERS. SERIOUSLY!"

If you are anti-vax, please think about these things before continuing on with that line of thinking...Take ALL the politics out of it...Take all the mistrust out of it...Look at things from an outsider's perspective...Play the devil's advocate and look at the other side...Could the scientists and doctors actually be right? Might you be a victim of the right wing media's manipulative tactics? I'm not saying either left- or right-wing media is totally faultless, but I would definitely think about what I believe and how much of what I believe is based on actual truth or manufactured lies by entities who aren't looking out for your best interests...

If you still believe what you believe, then be prepared to accept the consequences once things go south...

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Kroger-Employee wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Vaccine doesnt seem to help at all. Colin Powell died and was vaxxed so.. what we need more than ever now is hazard pay.
Vaccine DOES help reduce the symptoms if you get the Covid. It greatly reduces the chances that you will be so sick you'll need to go to the hospital. BUT it is not a cure-all. But it is still worth it to get the vaccine. You have to balance the pros with the cons, and the vaccine definitely improves your chances of surviving. As they say in business / marketing: What is the "COST/BENEFIT" ratio????
Colin Powell already had cancer and Parkinson's disease so this is no surprise that adding Covid to his list of ailments caused his death.

Yes, he did have cancer...multiple myeloma...My dad died from that cancer, so I know how devastating it is...People forget that those dying may have had other pre-existing conditions going on...If it wasn't the COVID, one of those other things would've been the cause of death...Still, why add COVID to the list if you can help it??? Sure, the shots don't cure all, but there are many more pros than cons to getting the vaccines than to not get them...

Date: Oct 22, 2021

KrogerBagger wrote:
Sure it helps reduce symptoms, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is worth getting the vaccine. If you can still get sick, have a good chance of having side effects from it, and the added fact that we don't have any long-term data on possible bad effects, that makes me not want to get it. I've had covid and I'm in a super low-risk category, and I don't see any reason to be vaccinated.

We'll probably have more long-term data on the side effects and long-hauler symptoms associated with the COVID itself than with any of the vaccines...Everyone thinks they're low-risk until something happens to them, too...I've had COVID, too, and maybe a lot longer than some people...Just because one person's bout with COVID wasn't as bad, it does not negate others' experiences which were far worse...Having had it already once and bad, I see no reason NOT to get vaccinated, unless you're allergic to the ingredients in the vaccine or something...Herd immunity is not the issue here, but herd stupidity might be...And we can all be stupid at times in our life...Question is...Do we want to STAY that way???

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Look up the anti-vax/right wing/anti-mask radio personalities Phil Valentine, Dick Farrell, Marc Bernier, Bob Enyart and conspiracy theorist Robert David Steele, anti-masker Caleb Wallace and conservative GOP leader Pressley Stutts...All of them died from COVID

If you look at their photos, with the exception of Phil Valentine, all of those people were significantly overweight. That's the number one most common cause of complications from Covid, but that's never mentioned by the Liberal mainstream news media. It probably doesn't exist, but it would be interesting to know how many Covid hospitaliztions and deaths were caused strictly by Covid and not some other underlying co-morbidity.

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Actually, the real truth is this...The COVID shots are actually working BETTER than expected, as they seem to have PREVENTED MORE DEATHS than just from the COVID alone...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/people-who-got-covid-19-vaccines-were-less-likely-to-die-from-any-cause-compared-to-unvaccinated-people-study-finds/ar-AAPQpWq?li=BBnb7Kz

Of course, it could just be that the people who took the shots were generally more healthier, but why would you want to be unhealthy in the first place, unless you really don't care about your health...I never did for the longest time, but not caring about it has proved to be too costly, and not just in the medical bills alone...

Date: Oct 22, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Actually, the real truth is this...The COVID shots are actually working BETTER than expected, as they seem to have PREVENTED MORE DEATHS than just from the COVID alone...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/people-who-got-covid-19-vaccines-were-less-likely-to-die-from-any-cause-compared-to-unvaccinated-people-study-finds/ar-AAPQpWq?li=BBnb7Kz
Of course, it could just be that the people who took the shots were generally more healthier, but why would you want to be unhealthy in the first place, unless you really don't care about your health...I never did for the longest time, but not caring about it has proved to be too costly, and not just in the medical bills alone...

Sorry but I have absolutely no trust in the big name pharmacy companies, the CDC, the FDA, Fauci and others like him, the mainstream media, or Biden and his people. Have you seen the video of the montage of all the different news programs that are sponsored by Pfizer? Talk about conflict of interst. Those people are just downright hypocritical. Some of them are just plain evil too.

Date: Oct 23, 2021

Fauci is a crook and should be in prison. He did the same scare tactics in the 80s with AIDS.

Kroger-Employee · Guru

SHOCKING video montage of news shows SPONSORED BY PFIZER!!!! Check this out!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC1h6l-eXJw

SO why no one in the news ever wants to say anything remotely negative about Pfizer and the pharmaceutical industry???!!!

Date: Oct 23, 2021

Knowing kroger they probably won't enforce it. If they do the union will be in cahoots about it. About 5% of my fellow coworkers are not vaccinated. 3% of them will never get it and are obviously anti-vaccers. God I hope we never have to ask customers for vaccine card. Kroger can special hire someone for this shi-tty spot