they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
People like that should be flogged. Let me guess, this is a person who has worked there since 1984 and his only previous job was a paper route? Yeah, I just love those guys.
In our store, there's a rotation as to which department is responsible for dealing with the baler. Meat dept on Tuesday, Deli on Wednesday etc.
Departments with Service counters should have to tie bales. It should be in the grocery elms hours. But if the manager tells you to do something you have to do it.
Every dept. has to take a turn at baling in my store. I've never done it though because it has deli/bakery as one dept. and there's always plenty of people in the deli to do it.
That's completely ridiculous. I've been in meat/sf for nearly 20 years, and I still tie bales. If you put cardboard in, you should help with the bale. It's just that simple.
As much as I'd like to learn how to tie the bales, no one has the time to show me. Management will not let me learn "on my own" because of safety reasons (and rightfully so... I guess).
It partly embarrasses me whenever someone from management and I know that the bale needs to be tied, but we can only stare at each other because none of us can do it (myself not being allowed to touch it and management either having to put up with terrible customers or unloading trucks).
We're this shorthanded.
What's even more irritating is that other people who knows how to tie bales would rather just stack boxes next to the machine and let it be "someone else's problem".
they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
It's grocery departments job to tie bales.
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they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
It's grocery departments job to tie bales.
so when I'm done tying a bale with your cardboard in it, would you prefer that I wheel your cart of cardboard into your dept? Where does it say "it's grocery's job?"
That's completely ridiculous. I've been in meat/sf for nearly 20 years, and I still tie bales. If you put cardboard in, you should help with the bale. It's just that simple.
so glad there's still some good ones left! Not too many people in this company left with common sense!
seriously.....helping your other co-workers......by doing something so unchallenging and necessary when trash is overtaking the back end of the store.......get real...give your co-worker a hand.
they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
It's grocery departments job to tie bales.
It's grocery dept's job to stack the bales and keep the backroom organized. Everyone who uses the baler "should" help with the bales, but most don't. "I don't know how so effff you...." that's the general attitude, rather than learning, God forbid.
One of my favorites: Somebody comes back, sees the baler is at 140%.....starts cramming in 200 pieces of their card board ANYWAY, and squeals: "THEY NEED TO MAKE A BALE!"
I love busting these peeps out when I can. "Oh, you don't know how to make one? C'mere, I'll show you."
The reason most people in other departments don't like tying bales is because they know if they do it once, they're going to be stuck with it every time.
I've used that same exact phrase, which it is true that we're not required to make bales as its more of a courtesy issue. However, there is a reason why I don't do bales anymore and have vowed never to do a bale ever again. I use to make bales as I go along and help people make bales. I will sometimes from time to time help them pull the wires to make the bale, but I will not take on the responsibility of finishing a bale. A couple of years ago I was working overnight in the meat department for open house and it was an hour before I had to leave and the baler was full. I decided to go ahead and make a bale. Well, upon finishing the bale a wire popped and almost hit me in the eye and the bale just fell apart. Many people came by but nobody would help me put the cardboard back into the baler. It took me 3 hours just to get it all in and rebaled.
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Jeez teamwork common , or forever let companies like Sam's Club / Walmart , Costco out preform us. I worked in Sam's Club for 3 years, this behavior is non-existent...yah I get it , non-union too but you should never let a union get in the way of just common sense and teamwork. Btw no such contract stating that exists so either tell him he's full of **** or just ask another department and not even deal with him. I'm sure every other employee already knows his spiel so don't bother taddling.
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I've used that same exact phrase, which it is true that we're not required to make bales as its more of a courtesy issue. However, there is a reason why I don't do bales anymore and have vowed never to do a bale ever again. I use to make bales as I go along and help people make bales. I will sometimes from time to time help them pull the wires to make the bale, but I will not take on the responsibility of finishing a bale. A couple of years ago I was working overnight in the meat department for open house and it was an hour before I had to leave and the baler was full. I decided to go ahead and make a bale. Well, upon finishing the bale a wire popped and almost hit me in the eye and the bale just fell apart. Many people came by but nobody would help me put the cardboard back into the baler. It took me 3 hours just to get it all in and rebaled.
I love changing the bale. We have a list of which department is supposed to change the bale on any given day. I ignore the list and change it whenever I am there and see the need for it to be changed. I have it down to a 5 minute routine as long as no one gets in the way and everything goes well.
Yes, it can be dangerous. My manager said he watched a wire pop and slice a guys arm artery. Not sure where he got sliced but it was a main artery. He had to wrap him up with plastic(syran wrap? from the meat department) and call an ambulance. The guy would have bled out otherwise. I have to look both ways before I drop a bale because there is a certain courtesy clerk that likes to walk past the baler at the worst time possible like clockwork. The bale has to weigh over 500# and once it drops, it will take atleast 5 guys to lift it up.
Recently, we have been getting cheap wire. If it is easy to bend/soft, it is likely to break. I use two of those wires when I catch it.
I dislike when someone changes the bale and then leaves the chains under the next bail. I have to lift the 500# bail somehow to get the chain out so I can drop it. It is physically impossible to have the chain accidentally land under the next bail. The person that did it is a tard.
Our baler drops bales into a walkway. I always stand to the side of the bale in case a wire pops.
Someone started the new bale with a bad liner. Then, cardboard was placed in baler standing up instead of flat causing a void on one side. I had one wire break as I was dropping it and an end wire slip off the side of the bale!! I wrapped a loose wire where the broken one was and parked it on our back room. I was able to get it on the next salvage truck but feel bad for the guy who had to unload it...
they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
It's grocery departments job to tie bales.
I call Bull ****. I work grocery nights. I think you are kidding so I will cut you some slack.
There is no day grocery department at my store. All grocery work is done at night.
Look on the sides of your baler. There might be a list of which deparment changes it any given day. I think that list was from the red/green days not key retailing.
Changing the baler is everyones job as long as they are over 18, have common sense and are not accident prone. It is an easy task but can be dangerous. I will change it for my elderly coworkers. I will train the younger coworkers how to change it if they are interested. If I want it changed now and done right, I will change it myself. What a ****in waste of time getting on the intercom to tell another department to change a bale because it is their day.
For everyone having problems with the wire - keep a pair of pliers/channel locks in your pocket (if you have some) so that you can pull the wire through the eye tightly, and then twist some strong wraparounds going in different directions. They won't pop.
they use that exact line. Well it's not in anybody's contract that "you will tie bales" but you know what, it's part of the grocery store job and you use the thing, what makes you think you don't have to tie the ****er? Every dept is swamped these days with reduced hours.
It's grocery departments job to tie bales.
I call Bull ****. I work grocery nights. I think you are kidding so I will cut you some slack.
There is no day grocery department at my store. All grocery work is done at night.
Look on the sides of your baler. There might be a list of which deparment changes it any given day. I think that list was from the red/green days not key retailing.
Changing the baler is everyones job as long as they are over 18, have common sense and are not accident prone. It is an easy task but can be dangerous. I will change it for my elderly coworkers. I will train the younger coworkers how to change it if they are interested. If I want it changed now and done right, I will change it myself. What a ****in waste of time getting on the intercom to tell another department to change a bale because it is their day.
I said that in jest, yes. It's everyones responsibility to do the bailer.... except girls, because Kroger is sexist, and front end idiots who are just going to hurt themselves.
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The Elms hours to do bales is in the grocery department!
At my store, the night grocery department unloads the trucks 98% of the time for the meat department, seafood department, bakery department, deli department, dairy department, produce department and frozen department because no one is there at 4:30 am to recieve their products.
Does grocery also get ELMS hours for recieving all departments?
I would also like to see where ELMS specifically says grocery gets these hours... I think changing the bale would fall under clean-up not bale changing.
Anonymous wrote:I would also like to see where ELMS specifically says grocery gets these hours... I think changing the bale would fall under clean-up not bale changing.
I'm pretty sure it's both. It's a clean-up duty handled primarily by grocery departments.
the crappy thing about leaving the baler for the next guy is that I'll be the one dealing with the enormous bale once it's out of the baler. Can't put it on the salvage trailer because it's too wide and other pallets (grocery) won't fit beside it in the trailer. So I tie a bale pretty much every day. It's nice when someone from another dept offers to help....I think they feel as though helping to tie one bale lets them off the hook for the rest of the month though. I don't think that the other departments realize just how many bales the store has to tie on a daily basis. These other departments should take note on all the things that grocery/dsd does to make the back dock workable for everyone.
At my store, the night grocery department unloads the trucks 98% of the time for the meat department, seafood department, bakery department, deli department, dairy department, produce department and frozen department because no one is there at 4:30 am to recieve their products.
Does grocery also get ELMS hours for recieving all departments?
I would also like to see where ELMS specifically says grocery gets these hours... I think changing the bale would fall under clean-up not bale changing.
agree 100%. As I said in my last post (right above this one), we do A LOT for other departments that goes unnoticed. The least they can do is help tie a damn bale (that common sense says they should tie anyway since they use the thing!) As a part time DSD clerk, I'm big on the depts having their coolers clean and ready for deliveries. I get so damned aggravated when I open the door and have to move flats, carts, and pallets to make room for THEIR truck (meat dept is notorious for this)
seriously.....helping your other co-workers......by doing something so unchallenging and necessary when trash is overtaking the back end of the store.......get real...give your co-worker a hand.
I'd really like to tweak your quote just a little, print it out, and post it on the baler. I post signs on everything at work, typically with common sense logic, and it never fails someone rips the notes down. Common sense is a rare commodity these days. example when our trashcan specifically for plastic gets full, can someone empty it? heavens no, just like the baler, cram it full then let it pile out onto the floor for the DSD clerk to deal with in the morning. thanks a lot lazy people, it's not like I have anything else to do when I come in in the morning!
i work in meatshop. half the time a bale needs to be done im alone in my dept. not only do i have a lot of work to do like everyone else but i also am responsible for watching the counter and doing custom cuts and such. everyone in my stores likes to cry about meatshop not helping as much as other departments, but when it comes down to it the customer is first. maybe in your store things are different.
meatshop as well as other departments should help when possible, but people that work the service counters in busy stores should be the last people in line to make a bale.
i work in meatshop. half the time a bale needs to be done im alone in my dept. not only do i have a lot of work to do like everyone else but i also am responsible for watching the counter and doing custom cuts and such. everyone in my stores likes to cry about meatshop not helping as much as other departments, but when it comes down to it the customer is first. maybe in your store things are different.
meatshop as well as other departments should help when possible, but people that work the service counters in busy stores should be the last people in line to make a bale.
That is different. If you are swamped and unable to leave the department, I would be happy to change the bale for you.
Just don't tell anyone. Don't need anyone knowing I am a team player!!
The Elms hours to do bales is in the grocery department!
At my store, the night grocery department unloads the trucks 98% of the time for the meat department, seafood department, bakery department, deli department, dairy department, produce department and frozen department because no one is there at 4:30 am to recieve their products.
Does grocery also get ELMS hours for recieving all departments?
I would also like to see where ELMS specifically says grocery gets these hours... I think changing the bale would fall under clean-up not bale changing.
Yes, grocery gets the hours to recieve trucks. It falls under recieving clerk, which falls under grocery! Have you guys never seen a task list for the departments?
Yes, grocery gets the hours to recieve trucks. It falls under recieving clerk, which falls under grocery! Have you guys never seen a task list for the departments?
Well, I was told by my day grocery manager that each department is allotted time to unload their products.
Yes, I know the reciever is on the grocery schedule but he doesn't come in until 6am and is usually swamped by vendors. I was also told, you can never leave the back door unattended while vendors are in the building. Some are scrupulous. Our grocery trucks usually arrive anywhere from 3am to 6am. The other departments come in at 6am. I have an order review along with the other departments to write and it isn't easy to do from 7am until 8am when the order closes. I will unload what I can and ask my coworkers in the other departments to take over. We all get along well so it works out.
My favorite job in the whole building is still changing the bale!!
