I haven't seen our paper schedule yet. This week we had myself and a few other courtesy clerks with around 12 hours.
But I have them again next week.
I wonder if the FEM whom I have written about so much on here is sending a 'lesson' or if it's a repeat again. I will have to see the paper schedule to find out.
One thing I do know. I can't even come CLOSE to a so-called 'living wage' with $60 a week. That's bullsh-it.
I'm not thinking of bringing the union in to it.
I'm just saying that at 12 hours for a single week, that's ridiculous.
12.5 this week, 12 next week.
That's barely $60 for each week.
And if I have to buy groceries it's almost all gone.
If she's trying to make me 'quit' she is succeeding.
No one can live on a pay like that. Not if they want to eat at least.
I do agree. I got 14 hours last week. My check was a paltry 80 bucks. Considering that I'm the sole income, that can't be lived on for a family of 3.
My saving grace is that my department is much smaller than front end, so yeah, I got 14 last week and 19 this week, there is the off chance that I can get extra hours in the event that they are short-staffed. Which they always are.
I don't know how old you are, or anything else, but if you're trying to support a family (or even yourself on your own), you may have no choice but to do more job searching. I'm actually gonna start myself, but I'm looking for full-time and NOT in a factory/warehouse setting.
I'm not defending the practice of giving out so few hours, but entry-level retail (and other jobs such as fast food) is not meant to be "lived" off of. Maybe back in the mid twentieth century, you could live off of being a cashier in a grocery store, but nowadays? If you're a courtesy clerk, checker, produce or grocery clerk or really any other type of clerk that is "under" a department head, then the wage your paid is meant for kids in school or living at home, supplemental income for retirees or as a second job, or for someone who's significant other brings home a majority of the income.
The only way to see "stable" hours and halfway "decent" pay is to work your way up to a full time position, like Lead Bookkeeper or Customer Service Manager (both front end positions) or become a Produce or Drug/GM Manager. Basically, any department which you're able to work your way to the "top" in the store and become a department head or lead will net you income that you might be able to live off of if you're smart with your finances. It's easier to do this in some stores than others depending on how supportive the people around you and above you are.
Without knowing how many courtesy clerks have more seniority than you and are thus entitled to more hours and what your availability is, as well as how many courtesy clerks the hours must be divided up among and the average volume of your store, it's hard to say if the number of hours you're being given is understandable or not. Judging by your past dealings with management and I'm assuming the person that is your CSM, it's entirely possible e-Sked is giving you more than just twelve hours, but that someone is shortening or perhaps even deleting entire shifts of yours after the auto scheduler has been run. People in power can be vindictive at times.
As I've suggested in the past, volunteer to stay late or come in early, if possible. Talk to floor supervisors that you're on good terms with and see if one of them will let you stay late or come in early to help with go backs or clearing the parking lot. Go directly to the store manager and express a desire to help out and learn other departments. There are ways to pick up hours, especially if you don't have a store manager that is watching every single hour and truly cares about running a clean, orderly and well-maintained store. Be persistent, but polite. Try to deal with those that you like and can help you rather than those that you can't stand and have it in for you.
so the paper schedule that I checked tonight says I have 11 hours, not 12.
Should I raise a stink about it or is it not worth it?
It's not as if any of my days are Unavailable.
We do have three new hires undergoing Front End Training on Thursday - the new hires have 5 hours each.
But I don't see how that 15 hours could affect most people.
We have several courtesy clerks who are low on hours like myself and a few others who have more -- but the ones that have more have been here a shorter time than myself.
Not that I think she did it, but I have to examine one of the theories being that my FEM might have shaved my schedule this week.
I think since Sunday is coming up that it's too late to claim hours.
But it just doesn't seem right or fair that a courtesy clerk working here only a few months while I have been here nearly 11 gets 20-22 hours while I get 11.
Even if it's because my FEM is a total bitc-h and is screwing with e-Sked.
The thing is, I can't just come out and claim, even in here, that it is her doing.
For all I know it's e-Sked's fault.
But since she signs off on it, I have to think she probably liked the fact that I only had 11 hours.
After all I've made it no secret I'm frustrated with the job.
when it's run, eschedule will give out far fewer hours than the the minimum sometimes. you can't be on the schedule and not get 12 hrs at least in ATL division. that's contract.
if there's someone they want to ease out dept heads will go to the contract minimum hours hoping they problem will move on.
upfront that's probably more common now that the training center takes so long to send us people.
"when it's run, eschedule will give out far fewer hours than the the minimum sometimes. you can't be on the schedule and not get 12 hrs at least in ATL division. that's contract."
Did you mean can't or can?
Because I am in the ATL division.
And I have 11 hours.
We do have one courtesy clerk working a five hour shift this week BUT I don't know if he is in the union or not AND he has requested or unavailable all other days of the week.
I'm not defending the practice of giving out so few hours, but entry-level retail (and other jobs such as fast food) is not meant to be "lived" off of. Maybe back in the mid twentieth century, you could live off of being a cashier in a grocery store, but nowadays? If you're a courtesy clerk, checker, produce or grocery clerk or really any other type of clerk that is "under" a department head, then the wage your paid is meant for kids in school or living at home, supplemental income for retirees or as a second job, or for someone who's significant other brings home a majority of the income.
The only way to see "stable" hours and halfway "decent" pay is to work your way up to a full time position, like Lead Bookkeeper or Customer Service Manager (both front end positions) or become a Produce or Drug/GM Manager. Basically, any department which you're able to work your way to the "top" in the store and become a department head or lead will net you income that you might be able to live off of if you're smart with your finances. It's easier to do this in some stores than others depending on how supportive the people around you and above you are.
Without knowing how many courtesy clerks have more seniority than you and are thus entitled to more hours and what your availability is, as well as how many courtesy clerks the hours must be divided up among and the average volume of your store, it's hard to say if the number of hours you're being given is understandable or not. Judging by your past dealings with management and I'm assuming the person that is your CSM, it's entirely possible e-Sked is giving you more than just twelve hours, but that someone is shortening or perhaps even deleting entire shifts of yours after the auto scheduler has been run. People in power can be vindictive at times.
As I've suggested in the past, volunteer to stay late or come in early, if possible. Talk to floor supervisors that you're on good terms with and see if one of them will let you stay late or come in early to help with go backs or clearing the parking lot. Go directly to the store manager and express a desire to help out and learn other departments. There are ways to pick up hours, especially if you don't have a store manager that is watching every single hour and truly cares about running a clean, orderly and well-maintained store. Be persistent, but polite. Try to deal with those that you like and can help you rather than those that you can't stand and have it in for you.
"Its not ALOT of money"
That was said to me when i was interviewed to work at Kroger. Its not meant to be a job you can really grow into unless you get a full time/manager position. They way this company run things its not mean for anyone to be there long term otherwise
"when it's run, eschedule will give out far fewer hours than the the minimum sometimes. you can't be on the schedule and not get 12 hrs at least in ATL division. that's contract."
Did you mean can't or can? Because I am in the ATL division. And I have 11 hours.
We do have one courtesy clerk working a five hour shift this week BUT I don't know if he is in the union or not AND he has requested or unavailable all other days of the week.
Oh eschedule and the paper schedule will say 11 or 5 hours or whatever. If you're scheduled period during the week it must be a minimum of 12 hours. It's in the contract. Talk to your union steward. Some dept heads will just write you in for the extra hours. That's usually what I do if there's an oversight. Management might whine but it's contract.
They can give you no hours or at least 12. There's no middle ground in ATL division.
I do agree. I got 14 hours last week. My check was a paltry 80 bucks. Considering that I'm the sole income, that can't be lived on for a family of 3.
My saving grace is that my department is much smaller than front end, so yeah, I got 14 last week and 19 this week, there is the off chance that I can get extra hours in the event that they are short-staffed. Which they always are.
I don't know how old you are, or anything else, but if you're trying to support a family (or even yourself on your own), you may have no choice but to do more job searching. I'm actually gonna start myself, but I'm looking for full-time and NOT in a factory/warehouse setting.
What's wrong with an industrial work setting? Warehouses and factories will give you 40 hours off the bat and most will start you off at well above $7.25 an hour.
