When will you get it through your mind that Costco's business model is not traditional grocery. You have to ****in PAY to even have the ability to buy things from them. They are very attractive to small business owners who need larger portions, but don't want to pay for the logistics associated with directly buying from the manufacturer. Let me tell you something else. The growing generation of millenials are having less or no children compared to their parents. The long term future of a club warehouse retailer is highly uncertain as the per-household quantity demanded for food shrinks. Right now everyone is racing to get into online grocery shopping. The first companies to establish a solid presence there will have promising futures.

Lord_Uboat wrote:

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When will you get it through your mind that Costco's business model is not traditional grocery. You have to ****in PAY to even have the ability to buy things from them. They are very attractive to small business owners who need larger portions, but don't want to pay for the logistics associated with directly buying from the manufacturer.

Let me tell you something else. The growing generation of millenials are having less or no children compared to their parents. The long term future of a club warehouse retailer is highly uncertain as the per-household quantity demanded for food shrinks.

Right now everyone is racing to get into online grocery shopping. The first companies to establish a solid presence there will have promising futures.

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 As to the first point: That's true....but only for the non minority demographic who's being crucified by paying for all the minority's off spring. Part of why white people are disappearing.

Second: On line ordering, tho having taken over 20 years to take hold, is definitely catching on now. Amazon.com has 270 BILLION vs Walmart's 230. That is a HUGE disparity, and should tell people everything they need to know about retail's future.

nocturnia wrote:

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Lord_Uboat wrote:

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When will you get it through your mind that Costco's business model is not traditional grocery. You have to ****in PAY to even have the ability to buy things from them. They are very attractive to small business owners who need larger portions, but don't want to pay for the logistics associated with directly buying from the manufacturer.

Let me tell you something else. The growing generation of millenials are having less or no children compared to their parents. The long term future of a club warehouse retailer is highly uncertain as the per-household quantity demanded for food shrinks.

Right now everyone is racing to get into online grocery shopping. The first companies to establish a solid presence there will have promising futures.

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 As to the first point: That's true....but only for the non minority demographic who's being crucified by paying for all the minority's off spring. Part of why white people are disappearing.

Second: On line ordering, tho having taken over 20 years to take hold, is definitely catching on now. Amazon.com has 270 BILLION vs Walmart's 230. That is a HUGE disparity, and should tell people everything they need to know about retail's future.

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 White people are disappearing? Where are they going, back to Europe?

I agree that a retail giant can fall from the top very, very quickly, even with the warning signs flashing in neon lights. I think back to what happened to K-Mart and that could be Kroger's future. Our receipt tracker has fallen to a 64% and management keeps saying, "we have to get the shelves stocked, because that's the number one complaint, out of stocks," okay... well... who's going to stock that product that is piling up in the backroom? If you don't give out the hours, it's not going to get done, and you know what else isn't going to get done? Everything else because you keep calling for surge help to the front to cashier and for cart round-ups. Stop pulling people from other departments which are already strained thin, frustrated and over-worked to help the front end. Staff the frigging front end properly so that part of the store can take care of itself and then do a better job of staffing produce so that everything can be full and fresh and give grocery the help it needs so that shelves can be full for customers and give Meat Market the people it needs to take care of both customers at the service case and the customers that are looking for the prepackaged meats in the bunkers and along the wall.

Adequately staff the stores and pay the help a wage that's going to make them want to stay, rather than look for job opportunities elsewhere, and a lot of the problems in the stores will go away.

But that's not going to happen, though. Kroger is too greedy. Kroger wants the fewest number of employees possible staffed and Kroger wants to pay those employees as little as possible to boost company profits, the stock price and bonus amounts. We all can see what this is doing to the stores and the employees. The stores look bad and the employees look miserable. There is a constant turn-over which Kroger loves because it means people don't stick around to earn vacation time, personal days and better raises. That greed though is slowly eating away at the company though and it's not just Walmart Kroger has to contend with, but at least in my area, it's also Albertsons, ALDI, WinCo, Costco, Tom Thumb, Target and maybe, eventually, H-E-B, so it's not like Kroger can continue to cut, cut, cut without more consequences surfacing.

It's time the "leader in the grocery industry" started acting like a leader and lead by example - by having well-stocked, freshly-packed out stores that are clean and staffed by happy employees that are treated well and compensated well, who will go out of their way to give every customer the best service possible because of how much they love their job.

Not that I expect that to happen, but that's what should happen.

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I agree that a retail giant can fall from the top very, very quickly, even with the warning signs flashing in neon lights. I think back to what happened to K-Mart and that could be Kroger's future. Our receipt tracker has fallen to a 64% and management keeps saying, "we have to get the shelves stocked, because that's the number one complaint, out of stocks," okay... well... who's going to stock that product that is piling up in the backroom? If you don't give out the hours, it's not going to get done, and you know what else isn't going to get done? Everything else because you keep calling for surge help to the front to cashier and for cart round-ups. Stop pulling people from other departments which are already strained thin, frustrated and over-worked to help the front end. Staff the frigging front end properly so that part of the store can take care of itself and then do a better job of staffing produce so that everything can be full and fresh and give grocery the help it needs so that shelves can be full for customers and give Meat Market the people it needs to take care of both customers at the service case and the customers that are looking for the prepackaged meats in the bunkers and along the wall.

Adequately staff the stores and pay the help a wage that's going to make them want to stay, rather than look for job opportunities elsewhere, and a lot of the problems in the stores will go away.

But that's not going to happen, though. Kroger is too greedy. Kroger wants the fewest number of employees possible staffed and Kroger wants to pay those employees as little as possible to boost company profits, the stock price and bonus amounts. We all can see what this is doing to the stores and the employees. The stores look bad and the employees look miserable. There is a constant turn-over which Kroger loves because it means people don't stick around to earn vacation time, personal days and better raises. That greed though is slowly eating away at the company though and it's not just Walmart Kroger has to contend with, but at least in my area, it's also Albertsons, ALDI, WinCo, Costco, Tom Thumb, Target and maybe, eventually, H-E-B, so it's not like Kroger can continue to cut, cut, cut without more consequences surfacing.

It's time the "leader in the grocery industry" started acting like a leader and lead by example - by having well-stocked, freshly-packed out stores that are clean and staffed by happy employees that are treated well and compensated well, who will go out of their way to give every customer the best service possible because of how much they love their job.

Not that I expect that to happen, but that's what should happen.

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 If HEB comes into the area i'm gone and so are probably alot of employees as well. I've been with the company for 10 years. I could strategically wreak havoc on Kroger and probably put them out of business out of the meat business  if I ran a meat market for HEB.

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GenesisOne wrote:

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I agree that a retail giant can fall from the top very, very quickly, even with the warning signs flashing in neon lights. I think back to what happened to K-Mart and that could be Kroger's future. Our receipt tracker has fallen to a 64% and management keeps saying, "we have to get the shelves stocked, because that's the number one complaint, out of stocks," okay... well... who's going to stock that product that is piling up in the backroom? If you don't give out the hours, it's not going to get done, and you know what else isn't going to get done? Everything else because you keep calling for surge help to the front to cashier and for cart round-ups. Stop pulling people from other departments which are already strained thin, frustrated and over-worked to help the front end. Staff the frigging front end properly so that part of the store can take care of itself and then do a better job of staffing produce so that everything can be full and fresh and give grocery the help it needs so that shelves can be full for customers and give Meat Market the people it needs to take care of both customers at the service case and the customers that are looking for the prepackaged meats in the bunkers and along the wall.

Adequately staff the stores and pay the help a wage that's going to make them want to stay, rather than look for job opportunities elsewhere, and a lot of the problems in the stores will go away.

But that's not going to happen, though. Kroger is too greedy. Kroger wants the fewest number of employees possible staffed and Kroger wants to pay those employees as little as possible to boost company profits, the stock price and bonus amounts. We all can see what this is doing to the stores and the employees. The stores look bad and the employees look miserable. There is a constant turn-over which Kroger loves because it means people don't stick around to earn vacation time, personal days and better raises. That greed though is slowly eating away at the company though and it's not just Walmart Kroger has to contend with, but at least in my area, it's also Albertsons, ALDI, WinCo, Costco, Tom Thumb, Target and maybe, eventually, H-E-B, so it's not like Kroger can continue to cut, cut, cut without more consequences surfacing.

It's time the "leader in the grocery industry" started acting like a leader and lead by example - by having well-stocked, freshly-packed out stores that are clean and staffed by happy employees that are treated well and compensated well, who will go out of their way to give every customer the best service possible because of how much they love their job.

Not that I expect that to happen, but that's what should happen.

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 If HEB comes into the area i'm gone and so are probably alot of employees as well. I've been with the company for 10 years. I could strategically wreak havoc on Kroger and probably put them out of business out of the meat business  if I ran a meat market for HEB.

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Kroger is experiencing a labor shortage now. If H-E-B begins opening stores in the area, then I can only imagine how few employees there will be left in the stores. H-E-B not only pays better (which is yet another company in a long, long, long list of companies that pay better than Kroger), but also is said to treat its employees better. I've heard from more than just one customer that they used to have Kroger and Albertsons stores where they once lived, but once H-E-B moved into the area, that was it for those stores and now only H-E-B and Walmart are left in those areas to fight it out. 

Kroger has a hard enough time competing against Walmart. Add H-E-B into the mix, and Kroger will be pushed out of that market because Kroger can't compete with both those companies at the same time.

A Business Insider article published Oct 20, 2015, entitled "America's companies might be running out of people to hire" states,

"The number of employers saying that they can't fill open jobs is surging while the number of people being hired each month is starting to fall." 

Krogrr, the leader in wage suppression, doesn't deserve to have employees.

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The Kroger stores keep doing city wide hiring events and the city wide hiring events continue to be nothing but big busts. Primarily, the majority of people that are hired during these events are teenagers, with very few adults here and there. You can't run a store with just teenagers. Teenagers are more likely to have restricted availabilities due to school, sporting events and so on, plus labor laws limit how many minors a store can hire/how late they can work (to an extent). It's fine if a percentage of a store's employees is made up of teenagers, but we need adults, too. Teenagers though are the ones that typically apply at a grocery store because it's easy to get a job as a bagger or a checker and teenagers also don't typically mind (as much) the terrible starting pay.

Every time i saw a new teenager hired you could look at the clock and start to do a countdown as to how long they would actually "stay". Most of the ones i saw were up on the front end since they couldnt keep their mind on their job.

Adults though do mind the terrible starting pay as well as unreliable schedules... like say getting thirty hours one week and the next week getting maybe twenty. Raise the starting pay and offer more regular/better raises, and people will apply, as well as offer more stable hours. Kroger also needs to invest more time in training new hires too so that new hires have the necessary knowledge and skills to do their job effectively. To not give someone proper training means that person will be more likely to quit due to frustration and discouragement. New hires need to feel like they are part of the team, not someone that is a burden/slowing things down. Department heads/assistant department heads and management, that's directed at you guys and its your responsibility to make sure new hires feel like they are an asset and have a future in the company where if they work hard enough, they too one day can be a department head or part of management.

Training is a a JOKE if you do get trained count yourself lucky. As far as hours you cannot rely that will give you anything consistent. Nothing that comes of the mouth of anyone that is management is to be taken seriously since most of them dont know what they themselves are DOING! As far as team that is just talk because in the end it comes down to what you can do because most learn why push yourself for little pay and NOTHING works right in the fantasy land called kroger. Its every person for themselves and you BETTER learn in kroger to watch your back. Mostly you get tired of the confusion and little to strive for and you move on!

But I know that Kroger isn't going to change course. You have some people that care, but the company as a whole doesn't. All corporate is concerned with is protecting that stock price and growing it. Anything that threatens that stock price is off limits. Kroger sees what happened to Walmart's stock price and profits recently, and although hire wages wasn't the only cause, Kroger believes higher wages/more money spent on training will contribute to a lower stock price, lower profits and fewer stores being built... in the short term. In the long term, it would pay off, and leave the company in better shape than if it continues down this road, but all Kroger cares about is the here and now.

It isnt going to change and frankly let ROME burn. Its so sad thats its funny but as long as people in management get their bonuses and cuts everything is peachy keen. Let other competitors learn and beat Kroger at their game since their to selfish to make any changes. 

Kroger would rather continue to experience short-staffing, higher out of stocks, longer check out wait times and less fresh products/poorer service as a result of the unhappy/unmotivated/overworked existing workforce because the company hasn't reached a point yet where these problems are causing a reversal in the bottom line. As long as revenue grows and the stock price appreciates, the problems will be deemed as minor and inconsequential. It's only when these problems get big enough to begin affecting the bottom line (such as, enough customers leaving Kroger to shop elsewhere because conditions in the stores have gotten bad enough to drive them away to the competition), that corporate will change course... and even then, it may not be to the benefit of the employees.

Without employees you dont have a store and in the end you dont have a company. This company and management will constantly bicker about empty shelves, backrooms that are a mess yet again its just a front as long as they make their money. I wonder if this company hit real trouble how many managers will roll up their selves and try to save their company ( try REAL hard not to laugh at that)!

Understand what is going on with this company if you are employed because many here have shared its a sinking ship. The question is are you going to get off before it goes under?
-- Edited by GenesisOne on Sunday 25th of October 2015 03:58:28 PM

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Sadist and swindlers.