Does any other division do this crap like Cincy/Dayton does?
Every time you get someone in the store that people actually like they get the bright idea to switch them around. I've only had my manager for less than a year and they're sending her to another store, ie "a bigger and better store" because we always get the short end of the stick being a smaller store not in their beloved Cincinnati area.
It's not fair, some managers stay forever and others come and go and don't get a say in the matter.
Are all stores like this or do some stores actually get to keep their employees?
Store managers usually stay for a while. I would say on average, a 3-5 year cycle. Co-Managers have a higher rate of change. They seem to have toned that down the past couple of years though. Before then, they would be swapped out every 4-6 months or so, now we likely see them for a year. Our store manager has been there for about 6 years, and people are commenting how it's about time for him to go. They are definitely short of management though, I've been told if anyone is looking to get into it, now is a good time.
I'm sorry, i actually meant to say department heads, not managers. Is it common in other divisions to move department heads so much?
It's very rare where I'm at. Usually it's because one person isn't working out at one store and they refuse to step down. So they move them to another store. That means that the first store has a vacancy and the former department head at the other store needs to go to another store. The simplest thing would be for them to switch stores. However, if they have enough seniority they can refuse the transfer and make someone else go.
1. In the matter of temporary and permanent transfers, the senior employee qualified and available shall have first refusal. The junior employee must accept the transfer.
2. No employee who has seniority within their classification within a store shall be required to transfer to another store.
If they're constantly switching department heads at your store, then they need to figure out why no one is working out and not just move people around. For example, if the problem is lack of hours to get the job done, then switching department heads won't fix things.
I'm sorry, i actually meant to say department heads, not managers. Is it common in other divisions to move department heads so much?
Where I am at, I have never seen a Department head forced to go to another store. Recently, a Lead did get requested to sign a bid for Department manager at another store. Normally, they have to wait 2 weeks by contract before going. The district manager wanted him there so bad that he pulled some strings and got him to the new store in under a week.
All moves that the Department heads do are done by signing bids where I am at.
It's always the good ones that get transferred and the managers you hate stay forever. Anytime a new manager or comanager comes in the always like to bark orders and show you whose the boss. They usually calm down after a few months when they get to know everyone. I remember one manager barked an order at me one day and I remember just laughing at him and saying "that's not the way we do things at store 123!"
Then there was that black manager who came in and promoted all the black people within one month. If you were an older white woman he really made you suffer. We all noticed what he was doing, his racist ways but nobody did anything about it. All the new hires were black too. I have nothing against black people, I don't, but he had an agenda and he made you know what he liked and didn't like.
He's gone now and the balance has shifted back to normal - maybe he took his crew with him when he left. I don't work at that store anymore.
Then there was that black manager who came in and promoted all the black people within one month. If you were an older white woman he really made you suffer. We all noticed what he was doing, his racist ways but nobody.All the new hires were black too.
We had a manager exactly like that, but the biggest problem she created was her selection of stupid, jail bait black employees. I mean, we're talkin' about some of the lowliest, bottom of the barrel/just got out of county for the 1,000th time/can't pass a piss test to save their lives/fkin'97 IQ scum bags you've ever seen.............and had absolutely NO. INTENTION. of working.
And of course nothing could be done to hold this manager or 'her peoples' accountable.........but eventually the numbers caught up to her. P&Ls don't care about race or gender, and she was eventually shuffled to another store, and then the dead beats? LOL, they mostly ended up back in jail.
-- Edited by nocturnia on Wednesday 4th of November 2015 06:05:52 AM
I'm sorry, i actually meant to say department heads, not managers. Is it common in other divisions to move department heads so much?
Where I am at, I have never seen a Department head forced to go to another store. Recently, a Lead did get requested to sign a bid for Department manager at another store. Normally, they have to wait 2 weeks by contract before going. The district manager wanted him there so bad that he pulled some strings and got him to the new store in under a week.
All moves that the Department heads do are done by signing bids where I am at.
I wonder why my district is notorious for doing this then. There's hardly anyone ever promoted in store here, the only way for promotion is to go to another store, and mind you, they're all 30 miles away.
We're about to lose our backup department head, and everyone is terrified of not knowing who is going to replace her.
No one in the department wants the job... the department head is rather difficult to deal with, and I'm afraid we'll get some gun-ho, full of "new ideas", micro-manage-y, pain in my ass.
We're about to lose our backup department head, and everyone is terrified of not knowing who is going to replace her.
No one in the department wants the job... the department head is rather difficult to deal with, and I'm afraid we'll get some gun-ho, full of "new ideas", micro-manage-y, pain in my ass.
Oh I just hate that lol! Just what you need, more ideas!
We're about to lose our backup department head, and everyone is terrified of not knowing who is going to replace her.
No one in the department wants the job... the department head is rather difficult to deal with, and I'm afraid we'll get some gun-ho, full of "new ideas", micro-manage-y, pain in my ass.
Oh I just hate that lol! Just what you need, more ideas!
I've been around for almost 30 years. There's no such thing as a new idea when it comes to Kroger. If it is, they stole it from somebody else.