Kroger's can't seem to keep managers. One store had two co mangers just quit and walk out within two weeks of each other. Last week a store leader just walked off the job after a visit from corporate. Another gave their two week notice this week. Are store managers quitting or just walking out in other areas?
Yup they can't stand the outright meanness of corporate anymore. A lot of ours are either retiring or moving to other jobs, leaving us with young naive kids and boot-licking corporate wannabes.
if Managers and leads are being told to tow the company line, and they disagree with what's going on or what they are being asked to do, what choice do they have?
if Managers and leads are being told to tow the company line, and they disagree with what's going on or what they are being asked to do, what choice do they have?
The key element here is whether something being asked of them is actually possible.
Kroger's can't seem to keep managers. One store had two co mangers just quit and walk out within two weeks of each other. Last week a store leader just walked off the job after a visit from corporate. Another gave their two week notice this week. Are store managers quitting or just walking out in other areas?
My store has the same issue. Our fes has been on medical for 2+ years now and the role is temp filled and the staff just get promoted or decide to quit because I don't know what it is about our store but it sure the hell causes people to quit. (I know exactly why but management sees the individual(s) as little angles not bullies.)
Yep, there's been a couple managers fired in my district, and many many co's have been getting the heck out of dodge for a while now... they can't even keep up now, there are not enough co-managers to go around for the district. Most people know not to get into management, that financially you're probably better off to just stay as a department head. Being co isn't worth the pay since you'll be working longer hours, and have no union protection and are dealing with corporate even more than the department heads...
Two-thirds of the co's in one store out in one month. One took a government job; the other is stepping back down into the union ranks.
. . . leads are being told to toe the company line and they disagree with what's going on or what they are being asked to do, what choice do they have?
Last week one of our co-managers literally threw his keys on the desk in the middle of the shift, said he quit and walked out. This happened on my day off. I have heard from someone else in the store that he was fed up with corporate treating him like crap-and he had enough.
It's why you see Kroger willing to accept pretty much anyone into the MD-1 program nowadays and why they fast-track these people through the program into stores. Unfortunately this lack of being selective and vetting applications as well as rushing them through the program without adequate training is a contributing cause to the overall reason stores are in such terrible shape.
to the last poster, yeah a friend of mine has been asked to go into the MD-1 program a couple times by her store manager now, and she's a little hesitant. A couple years ago, it was what she wanted, and she was mad when she wasn't chosen. Now that she's seen more of what's going on, she's not as interested and i don't blame her a bit.
In e Local 1996 (Atlanta GA) area we have had a LOT of ex Wal Mart mangers come over to Kroger to work-which begs the question, just what is happening over at THAT company?
In e Local 1996 (Atlanta GA) area we have had a LOT of ex Wal Mart mangers come over to Kroger to work-which begs the question, just what is happening over at THAT company?
Chances are the employee was used, the same way Kroger will, then harassed till they left and were replaced, just like Kroger does.
I see alot of ex Kroger in our area working for Walmart and tell me it's a **** hole, but it's better than a **** canyon(Kroger).
I don't know about store managers, but there are definitely department managers in my store (and others) who have just about had enough of the BS from these corporate walk-throughs and other hoops that they're being made to jump through that several have just plain retired in the last year or so...You could tell the stress was getting to them and these were lifelong employees who'd worked for the company for many, many years...It's kind of like a "straw broke the camel's back" situation for many of them and they wanted...no...NEEDED out, and fast!
Are they purposely TRYING to get people to quit???
It seems a lot of the same baloney keeps getting recycled...There are no new rules, regulations and initiatives...Corporate keeps coming up with new ways to bind people's hands at every turn and take them away from what they should be doing, which is ACTUAL WORK! And every one of these new measures has been done/talked about/discussed ad infinitum before...or at least, attempted before or done a little differently before with a few tweaks this time around...And much of this crap didn't work before, so what makes corporate think it's gonna be failsafe and foolproof this time??? And if something's a bad idea, it will ALWAYS be a bad idea! How hard is that to understand??? And the long-time people see this and they know what's going on, for they've seen it all before! You think this is their first rodeo or that they're spring chickens here???? Hardly...
So, I don't blame them at all for getting out while the gettin' is good! Fed up and frustrated they are!!! Maybe if corporate thought about this for a minute, they would realize that the losses of good people FAR outweigh the temporary measures (and yes, they are always temporary, as there will be something new tomorrow that will take their place...) they're using to get the stores back in shape...If you're losing all the good knowledgeable, experienced people, there won't be anyone left to run things the right way and whoever IS left (i.e. the inexperienced ones) will probably just run things into the ground...Anyone who thinks THAT is a better solution to fix what's wrong is badly mistaken and it only serves to make things DOUBLY HARD in the future...
It does make you wonder, though, about one thing...Why can't more people take the old adage "Work SMARTER, not HARDER" to heart anymore???
I guess "working smarter" is just too much trouble and is too easy, compared to keeping people stressed, frazzled, nervous and on their tiptoes all the time...
If people really are quitting left and right, as the title of this thread states, then it's up to Kroger to recognize this and do something about it instead of keeping their heads in the sand...Otherwise, look for more of it to continue in the months and years ahead...
And if they think the millennials are going to "tow the line", I think a lot of those young people are smarter than they're being given credit for, so don't expect them to fall for crap that many managers in the past did without hesitation...This generation gets it and are sick and tired of "playing the game"...
And anyone that just doesn't see it can't handle the truth!
We are losing FEM's left and right, equal hands firing and seeking better.
Store manager? Our previous one was a widely hated sadistic monster who ...sought retirement early. Our current one is very mysterious. He appears to have the charming yet inept grandfather act down to a science. Or, that's the face he chooses to present to employees while somehow keeping corporate mollified.
Our co-manager (cro-manager? Cromags? AGE OF QUARREL!) situation is quite troubling. One is a very dangerous true believer who in all seriousness speaks of "uplift". One is incredibly upset and will be leaving soon, as he complains that he is actually averaging $16/hour for his 60 hour weeks. One is seemingly incompetent, but compensates through surgical augmentation, alleged sexual favors, and alcoholism.
I don't know about store managers, but there are definitely department managers in my store (and others) who have just about had enough of the BS from these corporate walk-throughs and other hoops that they're being made to jump through that several have just plain retired in the last year or so...You could tell the stress was getting to them and these were lifelong employees who'd worked for the company for many, many years...It's kind of like a "straw broke the camel's back" situation for many of them and they wanted...no...NEEDED out, and fast!
Are they purposely TRYING to get people to quit???
It seems a lot of the same baloney keeps getting recycled...There are no new rules, regulations and initiatives...Corporate keeps coming up with new ways to bind people's hands at every turn and take them away from what they should be doing, which is ACTUAL WORK! And every one of these new measures has been done/talked about/discussed ad infinitum before...or at least, attempted before or done a little differently before with a few tweaks this time around...And much of this crap didn't work before, so what makes corporate think it's gonna be failsafe and foolproof this time??? And if something's a bad idea, it will ALWAYS be a bad idea! How hard is that to understand??? And the long-time people see this and they know what's going on, for they've seen it all before! You think this is their first rodeo or that they're spring chickens here???? Hardly...
So, I don't blame them at all for getting out while the gettin' is good! Fed up and frustrated they are!!! Maybe if corporate thought about this for a minute, they would realize that the losses of good people FAR outweigh the temporary measures (and yes, they are always temporary, as there will be something new tomorrow that will take their place...) they're using to get the stores back in shape...If you're losing all the good knowledgeable, experienced people, there won't be anyone left to run things the right way and whoever IS left (i.e. the inexperienced ones) will probably just run things into the ground...Anyone who thinks THAT is a better solution to fix what's wrong is badly mistaken and it only serves to make things DOUBLY HARD in the future...
It does make you wonder, though, about one thing...Why can't more people take the old adage "Work SMARTER, not HARDER" to heart anymore???
I guess "working smarter" is just too much trouble and is too easy, compared to keeping people stressed, frazzled, nervous and on their tiptoes all the time...
If people really are quitting left and right, as the title of this thread states, then it's up to Kroger to recognize this and do something about it instead of keeping their heads in the sand...Otherwise, look for more of it to continue in the months and years ahead...
And if they think the millennials are going to "tow the line", I think a lot of those young people are smarter than they're being given credit for, so don't expect them to fall for crap that many managers in the past did without hesitation...This generation gets it and are sick and tired of "playing the game"...
And anyone that just doesn't see it can't handle the truth!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churn_and_burn
Classic method to de-fang a union...get as many long-term members to quit out of frustration, when all you've got is newbies who don't know or care about the union, you've reduced the amount you have to pay for benefits/health-care/vacations/etc. PLUS eventually the union will become powerless and you can ram whatever contract you want straight through.
And anyone that just doesn't see it can't handle the truth!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churn_and_burn
Classic method to de-fang a union...get as many long-term members to quit out of frustration, when all you've got is newbies who don't know or care about the union, you've reduced the amount you have to pay for benefits/health-care/vacations/etc. PLUS eventually the union will become powerless and you can ram whatever contract you want straight through.
Old timers have been saying that for a long time. The union here is a toothless dog. A lot of bark but no bite.
In the last 10 years, the contracts have gotten worse for new hires. We get mostly slackers for new hires. Every once in a while, we get good workers.
I am at my limit for frustration but am a lifer. I am paid well and verbally appreciated. So, I will stick around for a while. There are no jobs available that can match my current pay with the lack of education I have.
