I found out today one of my store managers is leaving the company. Saturday is her last day. What are some of the reasons managers are giving for leaving the company entirely and say not transferring to another store?
I found out today one of my store managers is leaving the company. Saturday is her last day. What are some of the reasons managers are giving for leaving the company entirely and say not transferring to another store?
ASM , SM? Its typically poor work life balance due to understaffing..and abusive leadership. If they are new its also likely a lack of training. Kroger sucks at everything.
- Stress of the job was exacerbating his heart condition. He quit and went back to being a realtor. This guy was young, too.
- took an office job with another grocery
- Store manager forced and older guy closer to retirement out for not working health-damaging hours.
- got deported
- the most epic was a SM and ASM quitting on the spot during a store walk, because the corporate VP was department managers them on the floor with profanity with customers all around. When the SM & ASM said that wasn't appropriate in front of customers, the VP lit off on them so they walked out right then and there.
One of my favorite ASM's quit a few months ago. She had actually come to Kroger from Marsh supermarkets that went bankrupt last year. She was one of the nicest managers i've ever had, and completely understood how hard we worked.
She didn't last long. When she left, to go to Walmart, she said she was excited for a new opportunity, that she would be closer to home, etc, which while all were valid points, she told me on her last day that the real reason was that Kroger, in all her years of retail experience (20+ years), was the WORST company that she had ever worked for. She said the practices of corporate basically disgusted her and that was the real reason she left. It was a real shame too. The company is losing good people left and right and its only getting worse from here on out.
As far as department heads go, her leaving led to another one of my favorite ASMs being transferred and i definitely feel like i have no support. I actually like my current management team but i have zero support when yesterday, i worked a 10 hour shift, 4am-2pm, and worked 9 out of those 10 hours by myself. I was pissed to have to stay over because it's not like it's appreciated by corporate anyway. I can't do anything right to make my so called "fresh coordinator" happy. I might be transferring departments and stores soon (i refuse to use the words "step down" because i'm just burnt out on bakery) just to get away from all the pressure.
I found out today one of my store managers is leaving the company. Saturday is her last day. What are some of the reasons managers are giving for leaving the company entirely and say not transferring to another store?
My spouse was a SM and left due to working almost around the clock. The expectation from the tyrant DM was impossible to meet due to being understaffed because Krogers employee experience ratings are so abysmal no one wants to work for them.
Do it was way to much stress due to abysmal work/life balance, tyrant DM, staffing issues. One of her asms left due to abysmal training program.
I found out today one of my store managers is leaving the company. Saturday is her last day. What are some of the reasons managers are giving for leaving the company entirely and say not transferring to another store?
What are some of the reasons managers are giving when they quit?
I found out today one of my store managers is leaving the company. Saturday is her last day. What are some of the reasons managers are giving for leaving the company entirely and say not transferring to another store?
Terrible DM, Coordinators do nothing but self righteously complain about everything.
The ones I know that quit didn't give a reason except to say I've had enough of this and just walked out. It usually came after a coordinator, DM, or district office visit just yelling at them and telling them everything wrong. So, my guess would be tired of being treated like crap and nothing you do is ever enough.
What IS this thing now Kroger has about certain talk "not in front of customers"-I told my ASM I am a straight shooter and call it like I see it. I have been that way for the close to 6 years I have been with Kroger. I said in a *private* conversation with a cashier when we were up front "why aren't we closed on the holidays like Publix?"-I was told we shouldn't talk like that in front of customers and I responded with the straight shooter comment. If someone i.e. a customer is going to be SOOOO (rolls eyes) o-fen-ded by what I say, they should shop elsewhere and I will gladly direct them to the Aldi that is across the street from us
What IS this thing now Kroger has about certain talk "not in front of customers"-I told my ASM I am a straight shooter and call it like I see it. I have been that way for the close to 6 years I have been with Kroger. I said in a *private* conversation with a cashier when we were up front "why aren't we closed on the holidays like Publix?"-I was told we shouldn't talk like that in front of customers and I responded with the straight shooter comment. If someone i.e. a customer is going to be SOOOO (rolls eyes) o-fen-ded by what I say, they should shop elsewhere and I will gladly direct them to the Aldi that is across the street from us
You are right that was great. Customers should not control what you say.
When do people think the next Manager exodus will be? Will it be before the end of the Fiscal Year? Start Fiscal 2020 with loss...MGMT?
They are trying to save every penny to make up for rodneys failed restock Kroger scheme - but Id think they might simply covertly target those they want gone instead of another mass lay-off that will have everyone looking for employment elsewhere and investors bailing. If it happens Id think right before bonus payouts to save the maximum amount of cash.
Rumor is now going around that my store manager, who was one of the ones who "went back into the stores" is "retiring" soon. He's actually a good guy and if he's being forced out, that's pretty sad.
Rumor is now going around that my store manager, who was one of the ones who "went back into the stores" is "retiring" soon. He's actually a good guy and if he's being forced out, that's pretty sad.
If he is youngish and sudden its definitely a resignation due to forced out or they just dont want to deal with the hell anymore.
Officially, they will most likely use: -Ready for a new opportunity -Seeking to spend more time with Family
Un-Officially: -Lack of work life balance -Do not agree with direction of company -Lack of job progression/opportunity -Pay isn't worth the headache
Does anyone know what an ASM/and/or Store Manager makes? I think their once a month payroll sucks. Someone else posted with the hours they work it averages out to about $15 an hour with no overtime.
Officially, they will most likely use: -Ready for a new opportunity -Seeking to spend more time with Family
Un-Officially: -Lack of work life balance -Do not agree with direction of company -Lack of job progression/opportunity -Pay isn't worth the headache
Does anyone know what an ASM/and/or Store Manager makes? I think their once a month payroll sucks. Someone else posted with the hours they work it averages out to about $15 an hour with no overtime.
Depends on your level as SM what the pay scale is 60 90 level 75 Smaller store and probably 100-140 level 76 who is running a larger store or a market place. A few asms make 60-70 long timers been here a while. plus 20-40k bonus incentive. But you will live inside your store and be screamed at a lot - The stress and lack of work life balance isnt worth it. You will have money but wont be able to enjoy it.
Officially, they will most likely use: -Ready for a new opportunity -Seeking to spend more time with Family
Un-Officially: -Lack of work life balance -Do not agree with direction of company -Lack of job progression/opportunity -Pay isn't worth the headache
Does anyone know what an ASM/and/or Store Manager makes? I think their once a month payroll sucks. Someone else posted with the hours they work it averages out to about $15 an hour with no overtime.
Depends on your level as SM what the pay scale is 60 90 level 75 Smaller store and probably 100-140 level 76 who is running a larger store or a market place. A few asms make 60-70 long timers been here a while. plus 20-40k bonus incentive. But you will live inside your store and be screamed at a lot - The stress and lack of work life balance isnt worth it. You will have money but wont be able to enjoy it.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
I have heard many SM's saying they are only allowed 2 days off if there "store is right". With constant "Gotcha" visits, when are SM's allowed a day off?
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
I have heard many SM's saying they are only allowed 2 days off if there "store is right". With constant "Gotcha" visits, when are SM's allowed a day off?
Taking a day off for any understaffed store as a SM is most likely to end in write ups and terminations.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
Our union contract does not allow managers to stock shelves. They are allowed to fill shelves from shippers during holidays.
As long as they are making minimum wage, salaried managers can be asked to work as many hours as needed.
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
I have heard many SM's saying they are only allowed 2 days off if there "store is right". With constant "Gotcha" visits, when are SM's allowed a day off?
What exactly is a "Gotcha" visit and who does them?
Manager bonus...ASM supposedly 5000 to 7000 depending on your level. Been with them three years and never saw that even though I was at a store that hit everything (I got 1500 after taxes). Taxes take out 1/3 of anything. Every year I've been here they have changed (sometimes just a couple months before) how the bonus will be figured. Basically, it means you will qualify for a lot less than you were told. Considering I am "salaried" for 50 hours and am actually averaging 75 hours a week, I would consider any "bonus" money just my crappy overtime pay for the year.
SM's are supposed to have much "higher" bonus amounts and once upon a time they probably got that. Company still says that when they hire you on or promote you but no one in the store is getting that anymore and haven't for at least the last couple of years. Again, corporate is being creative with the way they do bonuses. Basically, coming up with creative ways for in store management to get less while Rodney keeps getting millions.
Do you think they put people like you into a "salaried" category so they would not have to pay overtime if you were hourly? I could possibly smell a lawsuit coming-if the hours worked x the actual monthly salary comes out to just above minimum wage-someone else on another thread said it is eqiv to around $15.O0 per hour
I would say it all depends on what type of work its being performed. If your being told to stock shelves and not "Managerial" tasks, you would have a basis for something.
This sounds like what happened at Office Depot about 10 years ago-their Asst Mgrs were hourly and OD refused to pay overtime because they were classified management. It came back to bite them in the behind, and they ended up settling about 3 lawsuits for an average of $250K each. When I left there was a current lawsuit pending and I talked to one of the attorneys handling the case because I am owned a commission check with they refused to pay (I was a PT cashier.)....but to bring it back to Kroger, I could possibly see a potential lawsuit if as the previous poster said they were hired at 50 hours per week but actually work 80. That is where the previous discussion about poor work/life balance come in. It makes me wonder what they are telling their management trainees as to what it is REALLY like to work at Kroger. I never recalled when I was at Publix (I worked there a year before I quit) that their managers ever had the same issues Kroger ASMs are dealing with.
I have heard many SM's saying they are only allowed 2 days off if there "store is right". With constant "Gotcha" visits, when are SM's allowed a day off?
What exactly is a "Gotcha" visit and who does them?
Basically anytime a DM or VP comes in, they will see something not right and then say your not "controlling" your store...."gotcha"
And if they want you gone they will start expecting a level of perfection from you that others with the same or worse conditions wont be held to. They will start the improvement write up plan.. with threats of termination.
There are no laws that protect salaried management except that you have to at least make minimum wage with the hours your working. You can work six or seven days a week. You are supposed to be doing "managerial" duties but I've spent large part of shifts unloading trucks, stocking, conditioning, bagging, etc. Over the years as corporate greed has got worse and worse, the number of hours and duties expected of salaried workers has gotten more and more. Salaried managers in a lot of industries are doing more hourly duties as labor hours are cut. We don't clock in or out so proving the number of hours we're working can be hard.
I know in union stores managers aren't supposed to be doing those things. If corporate won't give us the hours, we don't have the bodies, tons of call offs, you have to do what you can so the store doesn't fall completely apart. I'm not going to stand around while one poor guy unloads the truck by himself.
There is definitely lawsuit potential. Kroger covers itself by saying the following: We don't want managers stocking. We expect managers to take their two days off. We expect managers to blah, blah. Some of this is in writing. However, what is expressed verbally in person is very different. It is expected that you do what you have to do to get the job done however many days or hours it takes. It is expected that if someone considered important is coming to visit you will come in on your day off. DM's and others in business unit make it clear in carefully worded language that it is your decision to not come in on a day off or while on vacation but then your job is threatened. Sometimes the threat is very carefully worded and sometime your SM is just outright screamed at.
It's just a matter of time before a lawsuit is filed against them. However, I expect corporate will just say they knew nothing about it and blame either the DMs or divisional people. Someone will be a scapegoat.
There are no laws that protect salaried management except that you have to at least make minimum wage with the hours your working. You can work six or seven days a week. You are supposed to be doing "managerial" duties but I've spent large part of shifts unloading trucks, stocking, conditioning, bagging, etc. Over the years as corporate greed has got worse and worse, the number of hours and duties expected of salaried workers has gotten more and more. Salaried managers in a lot of industries are doing more hourly duties as labor hours are cut. We don't clock in or out so proving the number of hours we're working can be hard.
I know in union stores managers aren't supposed to be doing those things. If corporate won't give us the hours, we don't have the bodies, tons of call offs, you have to do what you can so the store doesn't fall completely apart. I'm not going to stand around while one poor guy unloads the truck by himself.
There is definitely lawsuit potential. Kroger covers itself by saying the following: We don't want managers stocking. We expect managers to take their two days off. We expect managers to blah, blah. Some of this is in writing. However, what is expressed verbally in person is very different. It is expected that you do what you have to do to get the job done however many days or hours it takes. It is expected that if someone considered important is coming to visit you will come in on your day off. DM's and others in business unit make it clear in carefully worded language that it is your decision to not come in on a day off or while on vacation but then your job is threatened. Sometimes the threat is very carefully worded and sometime your SM is just outright screamed at.
It's just a matter of time before a lawsuit is filed against them. However, I expect corporate will just say they knew nothing about it and blame either the DMs or divisional people. Someone will be a scapegoat.
SUPER POST!! I have just now added this URL to the "WAYBACK MACHINE" internet archive/database , so when the inevitable class action lawsuit is made against Kroger, a search will bring up this page, showing the corruption that was going on, and how upper management continued to cast a blind eye.............
There are no laws that protect salaried management except that you have to at least make minimum wage with the hours your working. You can work six or seven days a week. You are supposed to be doing "managerial" duties but I've spent large part of shifts unloading trucks, stocking, conditioning, bagging, etc. Over the years as corporate greed has got worse and worse, the number of hours and duties expected of salaried workers has gotten more and more. Salaried managers in a lot of industries are doing more hourly duties as labor hours are cut. We don't clock in or out so proving the number of hours we're working can be hard.
I know in union stores managers aren't supposed to be doing those things. If corporate won't give us the hours, we don't have the bodies, tons of call offs, you have to do what you can so the store doesn't fall completely apart. I'm not going to stand around while one poor guy unloads the truck by himself.
There is definitely lawsuit potential. Kroger covers itself by saying the following: We don't want managers stocking. We expect managers to take their two days off. We expect managers to blah, blah. Some of this is in writing. However, what is expressed verbally in person is very different. It is expected that you do what you have to do to get the job done however many days or hours it takes. It is expected that if someone considered important is coming to visit you will come in on your day off. DM's and others in business unit make it clear in carefully worded language that it is your decision to not come in on a day off or while on vacation but then your job is threatened. Sometimes the threat is very carefully worded and sometime your SM is just outright screamed at.
It's just a matter of time before a lawsuit is filed against them. However, I expect corporate will just say they knew nothing about it and blame either the DMs or divisional people. Someone will be a scapegoat.
My spouse was a SM for Kroger and was working 6-7 days a week because of the understaffed store and the expectations that it would still be perfect. There job was always on the line. If Kroger has violated the law and ere is a lawsuit we would join it.
One of our younger co-managers, who I think had some unrealistic, idealistic expectations about the job decided to go work at a non-grocery office position somewhere else...She thought that job would be less stressful than working for Kroger...
My thought is that you're either born to work retail and/or grocery or you're not...And if you've been around retail for a long time, you essentially know what to expect...
One of our younger co-managers, who I think had some unrealistic, idealistic expectations about the job decided to go work at a non-grocery office position somewhere else...She thought that job would be less stressful than working for Kroger...
My thought is that you're either born to work retail and/or grocery or you're not...And if you've been around retail for a long time, you essentially know what to expect...
Some retail is worse then others. Kroger was the worst for me by far. As they continue to gut labor its going to get even worse.
Probably the same reasons employee give their notice to leave. Some of the store manage don't care anymore. They just show up. And then, there are a very few who docare upper don't like. like the store I work. They have their favor one.And if you try to do your work it not enough. At first, I like working for Kroger but now it a job and well I leaving and no one really cares why. Just another employee not happy working for Kroger. If, the customer really knew what goes on to make a store run smooth. Its alot of work!!!
Not surprising. This company is hell. Abusive relationship with it's employees. I'm basically a slave to the journyman rate of pay. $9/hr isn't livable in my area to my house. Maybe when min jumps to $15 I'll consider seeking employment else where. Assumingly cost of living doesn't become affected by this.
