I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
I have had many many bails bust after ejecting the bail right when it hit the pallet. We used to have to pick it all up put it back in bailer and make the bail again. Most of the time we didn't put it all back because it was too full because idiots too lazy to make a bail.
You did the right thing. It was already on the truck just keep it there. Oh but don't forget they the warehouse might track you down find out where the trailer came from.
I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
They recently put signs on our balers that say you must use five wires to tie the bale or it will not be credited.
I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
They recently put signs on our balers that say you must use five wires to tie the bale or it will not be credited.
You also have to put a sticker on it. The barcode sticker needs to be scanned into the handheld used for Scan, Bag & Go.
Some people don't know how to tie a bale. Yes, every once in a while, we get bad wire. You can tell because it is easy to bend/soft.
One night a coworker changed the bale early. Normally, it is the width of the pallet. This bale should have been a foot narrower than the pallet. After he dumped it, it was a foot over the pallet. I barely bumped it with the pallet jack and it popped open. I threw everything back into the baler and reused his original wires. The wires didn't break, they slipped a part because he didn't tie it right.
The way I tie bales:
I send eyelet under the bale. Poke holes on the top of the bale in the channels. Go behind the machine and send the eyelet thru the top of the bale and hook the dump chains.
Then, I thread wire into the eyelet, snug it up. I wrap the wire 5 times, send it thru the eyelet again and wrap it 5 more times. Even if one wire breaks, there are still 4 wires holding everything together. It is usually a 5 minute process if the meat or produce department weren't the last people to add solid boxes.
The baler on the home side of the store takes longer. They have crap surrounding the baler that makes it a safety hazard just to get to the back of the machine.
PS. An skinny guy designed where the baler is planted. There might be a little over a foot between the wall and back of the baler. Then, another designer decided to add an 6" pvc pie to the wall to hold the wires.
I have probably changed the baler over 6000 times and never had one of mine fall a part. Sometimes, I change it twice in a shift. Occasionally, I will change 3 in a shift. It is my favorite job in the whole building. Besides sweeping the floors.
I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
They recently put signs on our balers that say you must use five wires to tie the bale or it will not be credited.
You also have to put a sticker on it. The barcode sticker needs to be scanned into the handheld used for Scan, Bag & Go.
Yeah that sticker bs I didnt see any so I didnt bother.
Some people don't know how to tie a bale. Yes, every once in a while, we get bad wire. You can tell because it is easy to bend/soft.
One night a coworker changed the bale early. Normally, it is the width of the pallet. This bale should have been a foot narrower than the pallet. After he dumped it, it was a foot over the pallet. I barely bumped it with the pallet jack and it popped open. I threw everything back into the baler and reused his original wires. The wires didn't break, they slipped a part because he didn't tie it right.
The way I tie bales:
I send eyelet under the bale. Poke holes on the top of the bale in the channels. Go behind the machine and send the eyelet thru the top of the bale and hook the dump chains.
Then, I thread wire into the eyelet, snug it up. I wrap the wire 5 times, send it thru the eyelet again and wrap it 5 more times. Even if one wire breaks, there are still 4 wires holding everything together. It is usually a 5 minute process if the meat or produce department weren't the last people to add solid boxes.
The baler on the home side of the store takes longer. They have crap surrounding the baler that makes it a safety hazard just to get to the back of the machine.
PS. An skinny guy designed where the baler is planted. There might be a little over a foot between the wall and back of the baler. Then, another designer decided to add an 6" pvc pie to the wall to hold the wires.
I have probably changed the baler over 6000 times and never had one of mine fall a part. Sometimes, I change it twice in a shift. Occasionally, I will change 3 in a shift. It is my favorite job in the whole building. Besides sweeping the floors.
Wires were tied fine they snapped. Not my problem. like some one said its in the truck its okay
Wires were tied fine they snapped. Not my problem. like some one said its in the truck its okay
Pictures or it didn't happen like you said. lol.
If that is your story, stick to it.
I heard of a guy that dumped the bale on the floor. We can't pick it up easily with our machines so he pushed it into the trailer. They can easily get it on a pallet with a forklift at the warehouse.
I had a guy once make a bale without wires. Yes he compressed down the bale, put the chains on the back of the baler, dropped a pallet and then hit the green button. Only he forgot to use bale ties :)
I heard several months ago that all bales are supposed to be scanned or stickered..........don't know anything about it and I am pretty sure most bales are not being done that way at our store.
Here is the way I make a bale: At our store, the baler is pretty close to the concrete wall, with perhaps about 2 to 2 & 1/2 feet clearance behind the baler. So, not too easy for anyone a bit chubby. The skinny guys and girls have no problem.
First, I stop the baler approximately at the point where someone (long ago) has drawn a thick arrow/black horizontal line with permanent black marker at the proper level to show how far it can go until/when it should be baled.
After turning the heavy metal crank/ratchet and loosening it sufficiently (located on the left side on this particular baler, are they all like that??) I open the bottom heavy solid front "door/gate" out far enough that the bale will fall forward easily and clear.
(Before starting to make a bale, it is best to lay several good even, flat cardboard boxes or sides of boxes on the very top of the pile to 'even up" the top edge of the bale, this will help make sure the holes are more easy to make).
Then, Using the heavy metal ram-rod with the poker end, jam a hole through each one of the five of the openings along the top. It may be easy, or hard, depending on how much random thick pieces of cardboard is jammed in near the top. If you laid a nice even sheet of cardboard on the top, it more likely will be a breeze.
Go around to the back, grab one wire, start feeding the eye-loop through the top hole on one end of the baler, then feed the rest of it into the bottom opening. Repeat that on each of five slots, so you know they went through completely and are sticking out of the front side of the baler. Raise and place the two hooks into position. Go around to the front and tie each of all 5 bale wires securely. I usually wrap each wire around, tying and wrapping and turning it around on itself 6 or 8 times or more to make sure it is very secure and no way it will slip.
Place the pallet on the floor directly in front of the baler, the edge of the pallet about 10 inches or a foot away from the edge of the baler itself.
Push the button, keeping it pressed down, that starts the baler rising up, and it will eject OK onto the pallet if everything was done right. Get a jack and move it onto the salvage truck.
Hope this makes sense, and I hope it helps someone!
Hoo-wee, sure a lot of comments on this post! Not to seem like a know-it-all, but I think my input may be the most helpful. Might get a little technical, so bear with me please. Here goes:
First, making a bale is not the cut and dried activity most people appraoch it as being. That's what gets them in trouble time and again. No, you have to take this with utmost seriousness. The first and maybe most crucial step is to calibrate the proper physics of the machinery you're operating. You'll need to consult a technician from the baler lab (should be their # right next to or behind the baler). They tend to be in Dubai now, so be ready for a language barier. If they get talking too fast tell them to fk their mother's uncle's best family camel; that will shut them up long enough to divert their attention back to the task at hand. Any hoo.
Next, make sure all your cardboard pieces are of a depth no less than .00000 " and no more than .000 ". Same with your baler bands, you'll ideally want 15, and they are to be NO LESS than .5 " in diameter.
Before you actually activate the smashing action, be sure to CALL THE STORE MANAGER and alert them to the action to commence. Fatalities have been known to occur during baler making, and the SM will need to call Legal to apprise them as well.
There are actually many more details, most not really critical, but I gave you the essentiaL bullet points. Hope this helped. Always glad to be of service, tho it's been quite a while since last time!
I heard several months ago that all bales are supposed to be scanned or stickered..........don't know anything about it and I am pretty sure most bales are not being done that way at our store.
Here is the way I make a bale: At our store, the baler is pretty close to the concrete wall, with perhaps about 2 to 2 & 1/2 feet clearance behind the baler. So, not too easy for anyone a bit chubby. The skinny guys and girls have no problem.
First, I stop the baler approximately at the point where someone (long ago) has drawn a thick arrow/black horizontal line with permanent black marker at the proper level to show how far it can go until/when it should be baled.
If your way works for you without getting hurt, that is the best way to do it. I don't understand why people send the wire thru the top first and then have to bend over in a tight space to thread it thru the bottom.
We log with our EUID into a scanner used for Scan, Bag & Go. 2.(?)75%, 1.(?) scan bale. The green bar code stickers should be in a box near the receivers' desk near a charger with a scanner. After the bale is on the pallet, the sticker is supposed to be on the top and bottom of the bale when it was in the baler. (The side facing the baler and the side facing away from the baler after it is on the pallet. Upper right corner like a postage stamp. There should be a diagram explaining it on or near the baler. Someone somewhere is keeping track of how much cardboard each store recycles. Ask a receiver or store manager about it.
I might have exaggerated about the lack of space between the wall and back of baler. I am not a huge guy but chubby yes.... Your description is more accurate except my store has a 6" pvc pipe in the space to hold the wires.
The line is supposed to be when the the smasher part(ram) is just below the top of the gate. The baler is supposed to stop automatically when the hydraulic pressure hits a certain pressure. That is when the baler is supposed to be changed. The only way to get the ram to go up and down after that is to hold the button down and people do that all the time and overfill it because they don't want to change it. I have seen departments hide their cardboard on Uboats in their departments at the end of the night so they don't have to change the baler. We need the uboats and they have them filled with cardboard. I heard that we send the bales to the warehouse. The warehouse puts them on another truck side by side double stacked to send to a recycler. If they are too wide or too small, they get re baled at the warehouse.
I don't care what day it is. Everyday is my day to change the baler.
-- Edited by Anonymouse1 on Saturday 12th of December 2020 04:21:56 PM
Wires were tied fine they snapped. Not my problem. like some one said its in the truck its okay
Pictures or it didn't happen like you said. lol.
If that is your story, stick to it.
I heard of a guy that dumped the bale on the floor. We can't pick it up easily with our machines so he pushed it into the trailer. They can easily get it on a pallet with a forklift at the warehouse.
Pictures for what I was there and know what happened. Thats the dumbest thing some one can say... The bale broke big ****en deal it happens.
Hoo-wee, sure a lot of comments on this post! Not to seem like a know-it-all, but I think my input may be the most helpful. Might get a little technical, so bear with me please. Here goes:
First, making a bale is not the cut and dried activity most people appraoch it as being. That's what gets them in trouble time and again. No, you have to take this with utmost seriousness. The first and maybe most crucial step is to calibrate the proper physics of the machinery you're operating. You'll need to consult a technician from the baler lab (should be their # right next to or behind the baler). They tend to be in Dubai now, so be ready for a language barier. If they get talking too fast tell them to fk their mother's uncle's best family camel; that will shut them up long enough to divert their attention back to the task at hand. Any hoo.
Next, make sure all your cardboard pieces are of a depth no less than .00000 " and no more than .000 ". Same with your baler bands, you'll ideally want 15, and they are to be NO LESS than .5 " in diameter.
Before you actually activate the smashing action, be sure to CALL THE STORE MANAGER and alert them to the action to commence. Fatalities have been known to occur during baler making, and the SM will need to call Legal to apprise them as well.
There are actually many more details, most not really critical, but I gave you the essentiaL bullet points. Hope this helped. Always glad to be of service, tho it's been quite a while since last time!
Merry Christmas!
Gary
Man Gary is a pro at posting FAKE NEWS. But you guys should follow the advice anyway
I didnt use enough wires on the bail and when I loaded it in the truck it came Undone... I quickly closed the door and walked away quick. Also forget to plug up the jack. ohwell not my problem i guess
At least you made a bale and attempted to put it in the truck. The 2 different stores that I worked at, cardboard would be piled up all around the full bailer with U boats and dollys full of cardboard filling up the backroom before anybody would make a bail. After a while you get tired of making all the bails so you start letting your cardboard pile up on boats in your department and then wait until the end of your shift, then roll 6 carts back to bailer and spend 15 minutes putting it in the bailer after you first went back there and checked to see if the bailer was empty first. Problem solved.
